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    Posted: 19 Oct 2015 at 10:39am
For a long time i have wanted to get into ownership of greyhounds, it has always interested me.

However, everything i have heard about the industry, specifically a 'newbie' getting involved in ownership, is of huge concern to me.

I have heard from 3 people, a breeder/owner, and 2 owners, their advice was quite simple, avoif the industry unless i wanted to get scammed out of my money.

Even for people who have had involvement in the industry, they strongly warned me to stay away from it, they all now have no part in it.

I would love to hear the opinions of people who have been involved in owning greyhounds, and having to do with potential scammers.


Edited by Gay3 - 27 Nov 2015 at 10:51am
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I bought my first greyhound about 4 or 5 months ago. I picked him out as a raced dog and had no problems with payments or transporting him interstate. He won a city race in only 4 starts he had for me and then unfortunately we lost him to an accident, was devastating. I will get into it again at some point, just going to take some time to get over that, but I had no issues with being scammed or anything, if you want any advice or help with finding a dog send me a PM
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I had a mate who bought into dogs years ago. He and a few friends of his bought into a really good one that went onto stud. They made plenty out of the breeding side of things.
 
Beliskner there are plenty of scams in the thoroughbred industry when buying in. I know trainers and syndicator have costs added on like holding costs, vets, breaking, transport etc, etc. But when you really look into what the horse cost and what the holding costs are. Some people are really charging over the top prices.
 
So I guess in the dogs, trotters and the thoroughbreds it is buyer beware. Do you homework check out the trainer or syndicator before buying
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try your luck on the harness abit cheaper an more real people just my thought..

I got into owning a greyhound got ripped off,as said above best way is to buy a used dog an race with mates,go to the track get chatting to trainers.you will spot the good guys an girls,, such a cheap sport to get into. 4 or 5 grand a year in fees in nothing ..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Beliskner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 10:27am
Mowie i have been warned off the Harness industry by [at the time]a couple of current trainer/drivers and other participants in general, nobody i have ever talked to about the Harness industry, who had had involvement in it, had ever had a stance that wasn't avoid like the plague.


Anybody have any other advice on best way/route to get into ownership?

One of the things i was warned about was going directly to a trainer as a industry naive person, i'd really like to try it at least once, being a part owner with other people, but after talking to the former breeder who i know who got ripped off, he warned me off again, is going directly to trainers the best way to go about potential ownership?

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2nd part is about Greyhounds, not harness. Smile
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Surely someone has more than a clue or knows someone who has? I've moved the topic in case some haven't noticed it yet e.g. perhaps those who were involved in 'Blakes' syndicate?

Edited by Gay3 - 27 Nov 2015 at 10:56am
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Stay away from the big city kennels, often the dogs are not looked after and huge turnover of dogs. Look for the hands on trainers with runs on their semi rural or rural blocks and if you are genuinely interested in your dogs well being, most trainers who have nothing to hide will invite you for a look around. I know a tremendous lady who trains out of the north nsw coast, she rehabs a lot of older dogs that can quite make it in metro syd in Melbourne but also has 7-8 young dogs on the go.

 
She targets TAB meetings at Lismore and Casino and non TAB meetings at Tweed, she also has had some very handy ones that she has taken to Albion Park and Wentworth Park if they are up to it.
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What's the prize money in dog racing? Obviously peanuts compared to the thoroughbreds but would be interested to know all the same.
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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

What's the prize money in dog racing? Obviously peanuts compared to the thoroughbreds but would be interested to know all the same.
I got this from the Greyhound Victoria racing site
 

How much prize money is on offer in Victoria?

Prize money levels in Victoria greyhound racing is at an all-time high.

Minimum prize money for a standard metropolitan race is $5,000 (1st), $1,430 (2nd) & $720 (3rd), while standard provincial prize money is a minimum $1,325 (1st), $375 (2nd) & $190 (3rd).

Total prize money in the state has risen to $40 Million. Victoria boasts the richest greyhound race in the world, the $500,000 Group 1 Melbourne Cup at Sandown Park which is comprised of $350,000 (1st), $100,000 (2nd) & $50,000 (3rd).

It is becoming increasingly common for elite greyhounds to win in excess of $500,000 in prize money during their career.

 
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We got nearly $1400 for winning a maiden at Albion Park on a Monday night. Thursday nights they race for about $7000 a race. 

Tomorrow at Bendigo they have a ready to run auction, has been some good cheap buys since they have started that. They run heats and finals then have an auction I believe.

Looking for raced dogs that aren't quite upto Sydney or Melbourne is a good option if you want to race in Queensland or SA for example.
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My first venture into thoroughbred ownership was a failure and after that I got involved with the hounds.  Much cheaper and they race far more often.  It was great fun and wouldn't mind having another crack.

As for getting scammed.  There are people scamming whatever code you're in.  Maybe a lot higher percentage in the dogs though.  Usual case of buyer beware.  See if you can find somebody who's recommended by more than one source.

Beliskner, which are do you live in?  Might be someone here can tip make a suggestion thats local for you.
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That's probably better than I thought it would be. Thanks for the info.
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grubby industry I don't care what people say...this code has a long sordid history.


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I better change my ID to 'Grub' then-

Strangely enough- why is it one can find many many articles written about 'shenanigans' in the Thoroughbred code than one would ever read about for the Dogs?
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

grubby industry I don't care what people say...this code has a long sordid history.


The question was: How to become a greyhound owner? Not  Opinions please on g'hound racing Disapprove
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Originally posted by AndiCap AndiCap wrote:

I better change my ID to 'Grub' then-

Strangely enough- why is it one can find many many articles written about 'shenanigans' in the Thoroughbred code than one would ever read about for the Dogs?

Because a lot more people care about TB racing.
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If they 'cared' would they be telling stories about all the underhandedness (is that a word- is now) that has gone on over the years?
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Yes, if people cared about TB racing journalists will write a lot more about it in any aspect than Greyhounds, which a lot less people care about. Not sure what point you're trying to make as it's pretty logical.
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Originally posted by AndiCap AndiCap wrote:

If they 'cared' would they be telling stories about all the underhandedness (is that a word- is now) that has gone on over the years?
If you think about it long enough you should be able to answer you own question.
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My attention span is very limited- 

How do you know more care about TB's than Dogs?  Do you have the numbers for each Code in regards to total number of trainers-owners-part owners etc etc if so please post same-
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You've gone off on a bit of a tangent there.
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Becoming greyhound owner easy, Ok, you give money, you get greyhound, Ok ? Give more money, get more greyhound.
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not in nSw, the largest state juist banned gReyyhound racing
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Where did that come from? I know they stopped them running at Kempsey due to ongoing safety issues...track and catching pen.

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Yep- July 2017 in NSW it will be banned
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setting themselves for double standards if they ban one sport for waste of dogs when they still support two other forms of racing

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Crazy decision and just the easy way out.
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Great news....hope other states follow......we are not living in Indonesia or Vietnam !
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