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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

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Injury breaks are the bane of tennis. Of course they are going to be used tactically. Get rid of them.




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 was a rort last night...don't anyone try to say that break didn't turn the match...he has to have had a needle...

 



How do you figure it turned the match? Nadal broke Federer's serve the very next game.
Nadal had all the momentum even after the timeout. Couldn't finish the job.
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Well I must say I'm astounded by saying its a rort to have a medical break if it's legit , it's in the rules so it's above board IMO, whatever treatment he got only let him play with the ability he had on the night, footballers do it,
cricketers do it , boxers cortisone their knuckles, and some go to work with a touch of ritilen in em.lol.
( spelling with Ritalin may be off)
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Rafa pointedly declined to buy into the "argument". 
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Injury breaks are the bane of tennis. Of course they are going to be used tactically. Get rid of them.




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 was a rort last night...don't anyone try to say that break didn't turn the match...he has to have had a needle...

 



How do you figure it turned the match? Nadal broke Federer's serve the very next game.
Nadal had all the momentum even after the timeout. Couldn't finish the job.

 it takes ten to twenty minutes for the needle to take effect...Nadal was superior during that time...then it kicked in and so did Fed's extra energy...

 I'm with Cash on the treatment dispute...

 
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Rafa pointedly declined to buy into the "argument". 

 what else would you expect...

 but if one can get assistance at a vital stage, while the other doesn't, it's skewed...

 
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Well I must say I'm astounded by saying its a rort to have a medical break if it's legit , it's in the rules so it's above board IMO, whatever treatment he got only let him play with the ability he had on the night, footballers do it,
cricketers do it , boxers cortisone their knuckles, and some go to work with a touch of ritilen in em.lol.
( spelling with Ritalin may be off)

 oh come on...the "treatment"...off camera...was the difference...

 shouldn't be allowed more than a quick rub...

 
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How do you know if Raffa didn't have treatment BEFORE the game, he's had a niggling wrist injury recently.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Injury breaks are the bane of tennis. Of course they are going to be used tactically. Get rid of them.




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 was a rort last night...don't anyone try to say that break didn't turn the match...he has to have had a needle...

 



How do you figure it turned the match? Nadal broke Federer's serve the very next game.
Nadal had all the momentum even after the timeout. Couldn't finish the job.


 it takes ten to twenty minutes for the needle to take effect...Nadal was superior during that time...then it kicked in and so did Fed's extra energy...

 I'm with Cash on the treatment dispute...

 



Nadal was hardly solid on serve throughout the match and basically nothing changed in the 5th other than after 3hrs+ he was no longer able to scramble to save break points as well. Federer won 5 games in a row to win the match. A bit of straw clutching to say tha a needle kicking in was the reason when the players are so evenly matched at their best anyway.

Nadal just faulterred a touch at the end of a tough match and that's all it takes when two all time greats are going at it.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Injury breaks are the bane of tennis. Of course they are going to be used tactically. Get rid of them.




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 was a rort last night...don't anyone try to say that break didn't turn the match...he has to have had a needle...

 



How do you figure it turned the match? Nadal broke Federer's serve the very next game.
Nadal had all the momentum even after the timeout. Couldn't finish the job.

 it takes ten to twenty minutes for the needle to take effect...Nadal was superior during that time...then it kicked in and so did Fed's extra energy...

 I'm with Cash on the treatment dispute...

 


when I heard Federerer post game last night it really got my attention when he referred to it  He said during the injury time he had a massage and it loosened up his legs, no reference to an injury. Sounded dodgy then, still seems dodgy
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For crying out loud. He did nothing wrong. He received treatment during a legal medical time out. Where were the complaints when Nishikori and Wawrinka had legal medical time outs against Federer.

Sour grapes from those in Nadal's corner.
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Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury
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I don't generally watch the game, because it doesn't interest me watching sooks throwing racquets and screaming aimlessly, and blaming everyone else when it goes badly.

I do however like sporting "events", like Wimbledon, or a major final, so I was disappointed to miss what sounds like a classic!

I did see the after game interviews, which were outstanding in their own right!

I just wish our leading players possessed the character and manners of these two true champions! 

I'd be inclined to watch them play, and wouldn't mind if they never won an event ... wouldn't waste my time at present, they are just embarrassingDead
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Your post made me lose a little respect of you doc, these two champs have been on the circuit for 15 yrs, they are well known for their admiral way they behave and their flair for great tennis, but you have watched a couple of disrespected imbeciles and they have warped your judgment , mores the pity doc you missed a great game!
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.
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Your post made me lose a little respect of you doc, these two champs have been on the circuit for 15 yrs, they are well known for their admiral way they behave and their flair for great tennis, but you have watched a couple of disrespected imbeciles and they have warped your judgment , mores the pity doc you missed a great game!

My opening remark was a bit harsh doc, should have said disappointed, apologies
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Your post made me lose a little respect of you doc, these two champs have been on the circuit for 15 yrs, they are well known for their admiral way they behave and their flair for great tennis, but you have watched a couple of disrespected imbeciles and they have warped your judgment , mores the pity doc you missed a great game!
I'm shattered!LOL

Don't get me wrong, I've just never really been a massive tennis fan, but being a sports fan, you watch whatever is on when you can, particularly if it's a big game or match, it becomes more of an "event", like say the Olympics where we are all fans of sports and athletic disciplines we have not watched or spoken of for 4 years!!! ... Used to always watch the Aussies in majors, Davis Cup, etc, but our current crop of dick heads have just narrowed my interest.

I acknowledge Federer as one of the best ever, and would be my all time favourite player, alongside Ken Rosewall, who is one of the greatest gentleman of our sporting history.

Normally last night's game would have been the type of game I would have buckled in for, but just had other things pressing ... my loss.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.

 come on, Sainters...you are known to be a huge Fed fan...take emotions out of the equation and see what actually happened...

 Fed was looking really shaggy at the end of the 4th...then he disappears, comes back and still looks stiff for two games...then miraculously he looks fresher and reels off 5 games to win...conclusion:

 big needle...

 Carioca...attention before the match is not the same as during, especially after four draining sets...Fed's "attention" changed the course of the game...and ruined a classic encounter...


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Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.

 you keep spouting this as part of your defense of your idol, Federer...

 what rules has he bent?

 
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The match turned many times throughout. Fed was on top in the 1st and then all of a sudden gets broken twice in the 2nd. Next minute he gets one break back and after losing the 2nd proceeds to dominate the 3rd winning it 6-1. Then out of nowhere Nadal turns it around and wins the 4th. MASSIVE presumption that the turnaround in the 5th was due to the injury timeout rather than simply another fluctuation that had already occurred multiple times throughout.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.


 you keep spouting this as part of your defense of your idol, Federer...

 what rules has he bent?

 



Supposed to be 30 seconds in between points. Nadal regularly takes much longer and is rarely penalised.
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The match turned many times throughout. Fed was on top in the 1st and then all of a sudden gets broken twice in the 2nd. Next minute he gets one break back and after losing the 2nd proceeds to dominate the 3rd winning it 6-1. Then out of nowhere Nadal turns it around and wins the 4th. MASSIVE presumption that the turnaround in the 5th was due to the injury timeout rather than simply another fluctuation that had already occurred multiple times throughout.

 you will excuse me if I just laugh...LOLLOLLOL

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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.


 you keep spouting this as part of your defense of your idol, Federer...

 what rules has he bent?

 



Supposed to be 30 seconds in between points. Nadal regularly takes much longer and is rarely penalised.

 even more laughable...next you will say he bounces the ball longer...

 puleeease !!
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

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The match turned many times throughout. Fed was on top in the 1st and then all of a sudden gets broken twice in the 2nd. Next minute he gets one break back and after losing the 2nd proceeds to dominate the 3rd winning it 6-1. Then out of nowhere Nadal turns it around and wins the 4th. MASSIVE presumption that the turnaround in the 5th was due to the injury timeout rather than simply another fluctuation that had already occurred multiple times throughout.


 you will excuse me if I just laugh...LOLLOLLOL





I'd love to laugh too. How about you help me by explaining why you think the swing in the match part way through the 5th was any different to the 3 or 4 others during the game? That will have me in stitches I'm sure.

Only conclusion I can draw is you only turned on your TV at the end of the 4th.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.


 you keep spouting this as part of your defense of your idol, Federer...

 what rules has he bent?

 



Supposed to be 30 seconds in between points. Nadal regularly takes much longer and is rarely penalised.


 even more laughable...next you will say he bounces the ball longer...

 puleeease !!




Stop embarrassing yourself jujuno. You clearly have little idea of the game. It's clear where your opinions on the subject can be discarded.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

The match turned many times throughout. Fed was on top in the 1st and then all of a sudden gets broken twice in the 2nd. Next minute he gets one break back and after losing the 2nd proceeds to dominate the 3rd winning it 6-1. Then out of nowhere Nadal turns it around and wins the 4th. MASSIVE presumption that the turnaround in the 5th was due to the injury timeout rather than simply another fluctuation that had already occurred multiple times throughout.


 you will excuse me if I just laugh...LOLLOLLOL





I'd love to laugh too. How about you help me by explaining why you think the swing in the match part way through the 5th was any different to the 3 or 4 others during the game? That will have me in stitches I'm sure.

Only conclusion I can draw is you only turned on your TV at the end of the 4th.

 I was glued to it all through the four hours...it was very noticeable how a ragged Fed began to look almost fresh in the fifth while Nadal still looked ratty...wonder why?

 you will never convince me otherwise...let us leave it here...

 
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.


 you keep spouting this as part of your defense of your idol, Federer...

 what rules has he bent?

 



Supposed to be 30 seconds in between points. Nadal regularly takes much longer and is rarely penalised.


 even more laughable...next you will say he bounces the ball longer...

 puleeease !!




Stop embarrassing yourself jujuno. You clearly have little idea of the game. It's clear where your opinions on the subject can be discarded.

 I can guarantee I know more about tennis than anyone on here...I used to cover it...

 
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

The match turned many times throughout. Fed was on top in the 1st and then all of a sudden gets broken twice in the 2nd. Next minute he gets one break back and after losing the 2nd proceeds to dominate the 3rd winning it 6-1. Then out of nowhere Nadal turns it around and wins the 4th. MASSIVE presumption that the turnaround in the 5th was due to the injury timeout rather than simply another fluctuation that had already occurred multiple times throughout.


 you will excuse me if I just laugh...LOLLOLLOL





I'd love to laugh too. How about you help me by explaining why you think the swing in the match part way through the 5th was any different to the 3 or 4 others during the game? That will have me in stitches I'm sure.

Only conclusion I can draw is you only turned on your TV at the end of the 4th.


 I was glued to it all through the four hours...it was very noticeable how a ragged Fed began to look almost fresh in the fifth while Nadal still looked ratty...wonder why?

 you will never convince me otherwise...let us leave it here...

 



Sure you were.

Didn't think you'd be able to explain the difference. Oh well.

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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Not at all I wanted Federer to win but people are allowed to speculate.

didn't see Stan but watching Nishikori it was pretty obvious that it was a genuine back injury


Federer had a genuine groin injury. There is no doubting that. Nishikori had treatment in the rooms and then later courtside, no different to Federer.

I don’t understand the problem people have with it.

Nadal actually bends the rules at times and nobody seems ro care.


 you keep spouting this as part of your defense of your idol, Federer...

 what rules has he bent?

 



Supposed to be 30 seconds in between points. Nadal regularly takes much longer and is rarely penalised.


 even more laughable...next you will say he bounces the ball longer...

 puleeease !!




Stop embarrassing yourself jujuno. You clearly have little idea of the game. It's clear where your opinions on the subject can be discarded.


 I can guarantee I know more about tennis than anyone on here...I used to cover it...

 



And yet you didn't even know about the 30 seconds between points rule.

I can guarantee you don't know more about it by feel free to keep deluding yourself.
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And yet you didn't even know about the 30 seconds between points rule.  

I can guarantee you don't know more about it by feel free to keep deluding yourself. 

 

 stop adding laugh emoticons as though you're joking...you may pretend you are but are even more vehement than I...

 I asked where Nadal broke the rules...you answered...I asked if he also bounced the ball too many times...where oh where in any of that was there an indication of not knowing the rules...

but of course, you're joking...LOL
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