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Yes Sunbride would make the cut for sure.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Well you could do either.  Taproot mare line still producing today will find mares like Juliet, Eulogy, Manto etc and they would be on the other list also although Manto you'd have to take on race credit so maybe not.  She was well before the real G1 races started.



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Ever heard of Madowla a daughter of Trenton.   She had 6 stakeswinners of 14 stakes races including 

Glenculloch - GN Foals S, North Island Challenge S

Glenowlet - Dunedin Champagne S, CJC Champagne S, GN Foal S, Welleseley S

Madam Madcap - CJC Champagne S, Great Easter H, Jocky Club H

Masterpiece - CJC Derby, DJC McLean S

Quarryman - CJC Metropolitan H, Hawkes Bay Guineas, Wanganui Cup

then her daughters Kirriemuir (3 stakeswinners of 10 stakes races), Glenowlet (3 stakeswinner of 5 stakes races), Discipline (2 stakewinners of 5 stakes races) produced
 
Moorfowl - Wellesley S, Canteruby Welcom S, Wellington S

Royal Stag - Dunedin Cup McLean S, GN Derby, Dunedin Guineas

Wild Hind - Dunedin Guineas, Dunedin Champagne S, Jockey Club H

Brown Owl - Dunedin Champagne S, Oaks S

Nightwatch - Dunedin Champagne S, Champagne S

Owiscombe - CJC Champagne S

Adjutant - Champagne S, Jockey Club H, WRC Autumn H

Court Martial - CJC Oaks S

In Australia this female line produced Playboy (AJC Derby, St Leger, C B Fisher Plate, King's Plate, Hill S, Craven Plate, AJC Plate etc)

There are lots out there which people have totally forgotten

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Or what about another daughter of Trenton in Lady Trenton who produced 4 stakeswinners of 20 stakesraces

Dividend - VRC Champion S (twice), Essendon S (twice), AJC St Leter, C B Fisher P, AJC Plate, Cumberland S etc

Lady Rylstone - VRC Oaks, AJC Champagne S

Lord Cardigan - Melbourne Cup, Sydney Cup, AJC Plate, Randwick Plate (twice)

Strata Florida - Caulfield Guineas

Then her daughers produced

Lord Nolan - Melbourne Cup, AJC St Leter S

Kingbier PARC CHristmas H, ARC City H

This line still thrives mostly through the decendants of Rainbird (Melbourne Cup)
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Bonnie Rosette was to become the ancestress of Kaoru Star but she was pretty good in her day with

Bonnie Chiel - Toorak H, Eclipse S

Kinglike - Eclipse S, Caulfield Guineas

Mountain King - AJC Derby, VRC Derby, AJC All Aged S, VRC St Leger, AJC St Leger, Rawson S, Craven plate etc

Scottish King - VRC St Leger, St George S etc
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Witty Maid had her foals win 43 stakes races

Comedy Prince - Adelaide Guineas, SA Sires' Produce S, Oaklands Plate, William Reid S etc

Comic Court - Melbourne Cup, Caulfield S, VRC Derby, William Reid S, Oaklands Plate, VRC St Leger S, C F Orr S, L K S Mackinnon S (twice), Alister Clark S, Ascot Vale S, Memsie S (twice), Turnbull S (thrice) etc etc etc

Gay Comedy - SA St Leger S, Auraria S, SA Oaks

St Comedy - Fulham Park Plate, Goodwood H, Adelaide Guineas, Ascot Vale S, Moonee Valley S etc
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Or what about another daughter of Trenton in Lady Trenton who produced 4 stakeswinners of 20 stakesraces

Dividend - VRC Champion S (twice), Essendon S (twice), AJC St Leter, C B Fisher P, AJC Plate, Cumberland S etc

Lady Rylstone - VRC Oaks, AJC Champagne S

Lord Cardigan - Melbourne Cup, Sydney Cup, AJC Plate, Randwick Plate (twice)

Strata Florida - Caulfield Guineas

Then her daughers produced

Lord Nolan - Melbourne Cup, AJC St Leter S

Kingbier PARC CHristmas H, ARC City H

This line still thrives mostly through the decendants of Rainbird (Melbourne Cup)

Ancestress of Seabrook this years Champagne Stakes winner. 





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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Witty Maid had her foals win 43 stakes races

Comedy Prince - Adelaide Guineas, SA Sires' Produce S, Oaklands Plate, William Reid S etc

Comic Court - Melbourne Cup, Caulfield S, VRC Derby, William Reid S, Oaklands Plate, VRC St Leger S, C F Orr S, L K S Mackinnon S (twice), Alister Clark S, Ascot Vale S, Memsie S (twice), Turnbull S (thrice) etc etc etc

Gay Comedy - SA St Leger S, Auraria S, SA Oaks

St Comedy - Fulham Park Plate, Goodwood H, Adelaide Guineas, Ascot Vale S, Moonee Valley S etc

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Unnamed  
Highrail Danehill (AUS)
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Parisianna
Bay 1996
Highest Honor
Grey 1983
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Belle of Ireland
1970
1964
9-c
1-m
High River
Bay 1978
Riverman
Hairbrush
1969
1970
10-a
10-c
Plessaya
Bay 1988
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Perlita
Bay 1972
Baldric
Pola Bella
1961
1965
13-c
4-n
Beldalou (AUS)
Bay 2008
Bel Esprit
Bay 1999
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Crimson Saint
Chestnut 1969
Crimson Satan
Bolero Rose
1959
1958
26>
8-c
Bespoken
Brown 1990
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Vin d'Amour
Bay 1981
Adios
Gliteren
1970
1969
6-f
34>
Voodalou
Brown 1994
Voodoo Rhythm
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Obeah
Bay 1965
Cyane
Book of Verse
1959
1956
16-b
2-f
Comic Gamble
Brown 1977
Gay Gambler
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Bug Brush
1958
1955
4-n
10-c
Dainty Lou
Brown 1958
Tesmic
Dainty Comedy
1947
1950
1-n
1-b
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Fiorente (IRE)
Brown 2008
Monsun
Bay or brown 1990
Konigsstuhl
Brown 1976
Dschingis Khan
Brown 1961
Tamerlane
Donna Diana
1952
1956
1-e
6-e
Konigskronung
Brown 1965
Tiepoletto
Kronung
1956
1957
2-c
5-h
Mosella
Bay 1985
Surumu
Chestnut 1974
Literat
Surama
1965
1970
7-b
19>
Monasia
Bay 1979
Authi
Monacensia
1970
1969
14-b
8-a
Desert Bloom
Bay 2000
Pilsudski
Bay 1992
Polish Precedent
Bay 1986
Danzig
Past Example
1977
1976
7-a
8-h
Cocotte
Bay 1983
Troy
Gay Milly
1976
1977
1-b
11>
Desert Beauty
Bay 1994
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Foreign Courier
1977
1979
7-a
A4
Hellenic
Bay 1987
Darshaan
Grecian Sea
1981
1978
13-c
5-h
Dark Tan (AUS)
Brown 2010
Statue of Liberty
Brown or black 2000
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
Terlingua
Chestnut 1976
Secretariat
Crimson Saint
1970
1969
2-s
8-c
Charming Lassie
Bay or brown 1987
Seattle Slew
Bay or brown 1974
Bold Reasoning
My Charmer
1968
1969
1-k
13-c
Lassie Dear
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Gay Missile
1963
1967
1-s
3-l
Voodalou
Brown 1994
Voodoo Rhythm
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Obeah
Bay 1965
Cyane
Book of Verse
1959
1956
16-b
2-f
Comic Gamble
Brown 1977
Gay Gambler
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Bug Brush
1958
1955
4-n
10-c
Dainty Lou
Brown 1958
Tesmic
Dainty Comedy
1947
1950
1-n
1-b
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Millanta's Wish (AUS) 1977
 Aust.Id.: 35394brown stallionDate of Birth: 04/11/1977 
  
 by Knightly Manner (USA) 1961 
 from Irma La Douce (AUS) 1969 
 bred by Mr BT Chapman, NSW 
Named Stallion Produce in Australia
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SeasonColourSexNameDam
1983b or brfillyChellantaMerry Phantom (AUS) 1978
1983brcoltCordeauxAquilegia (AUS) 1975
1983brfillyKermingtonPitter Patter (AUS) 1976
1984brcoltCadoobineDancing Puppet (AUS) 1978
1984b or brcoltMan Of MillantaRaymiss (AUS) 1975
1984chfillyMonday's ChildPitter Patter (AUS) 1976
1984dunfillyPrincess Poco ntbMallard's Poco (AUS) 1963 ntb
1984brcoltRocky PortCherry Port (AUS) 1974
1984bfillyThursday's ChildTia Mia (AUS) 1970
1985bcoltChasmat's WishTia Mia (AUS) 1970
1985bgeldingMillanta's BoyClose Company (NZ) 1978
1985bfillyMillanta's ProfileGolden Profile (AUS) 1973
1985b or brfillyMrs. KnoxNative Archon (AUS) 1977
1985bfillyPie In The SkyCastles In The Air (AUS) 1975
1986bfillyOak AlleyCastles In The Air (AUS) 1975
1986chgeldingSon Of MillantaTia Mia (AUS) 1970
1986chfillyWish Of BeautyPenanna (AUS) 1977
1987chgeldingDabeca's WishDabeca (AUS) 1982
1987bfillyLady Of MillantaLady Archon (AUS) 1973
1987chcoltLord Of MillantaMinor Touch (AUS) 1980
1987brfillyMaid Of MillantaPitter Patter (AUS) 1976
1987bfillyMillanta's BreezeWild Breeze (AUS) 1982
1987bcoltMillanta's MillCastles In The Air (AUS) 1975
1987brfillyNatmillNative Archon (AUS) 1977
1989bfillyGet SetDuchess Rai (AUS) 1979
1989chfillyVienna WishRed Glow (AUS) 1977
1989bfillyWattlebloom ntbNavy Cut (AUS) 1982 ntb
1990brfillyStar Of MillantasCommercial Value (AUS) 1984
1991brfillyMillanta's DollFlying Doll (AUS) 1980
1991chgeldingWindslidePitter Patter (AUS) 1976
1992bcoltCupid's BoyCherry Nook (AUS) 1986
1992bfillyMiss CharlotteCalais Miss (AUS) 1987
1993b or brgeldingHow To WishHow Now Then (AUS) 1987


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Furious, The Witty Maid family hangs on by the skin of its teeth through Beldalua and Dark Tan, They have been visiting good stallions so hopefully it can be rejuvenated.

 


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The most recent version of the table with Abit Leica removed and Auraria and True Course added.  The top row conveniently ends in 1979 with the introduction of Group racing.  The bottom line is a bit fat IMO.  There are some champion mares there but others were just top class.  But it is probably better to have too many and them edit than not have enough... which reminds me... why 100 ?

 
1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline (NZ)
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda (NZ)
1886.....Cynisca (NZ)
1887.....Lady Zetland (NZ)
1892.....Auraria
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform (NZ)
 
1900....Gladsome (NZ)
1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist(NZ)
1910....Warstep (NZ)
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold (NZ)
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle (NZ)
 
1929....Silver Scorn (NZ)
1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri (NZ)
1946....Sweet Spray (NZ)
1946....Chicquita
1947....True Course
1952....Evening Peal
1953....Yahabeebe (NZ)
1955....Wiggle
1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers (NZ)
1966....Gay Poss (NZ)
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate (NZ)
1969....Analie (NZ)
1970....Leilani (NZ)
1969....Toltrice
1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denise's Joy
1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround (NZ)
1975....My Blue Denim (NZ)
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation
 
1981....Spirit Of Kingston
1981....Tristarc
(NZ)
1982....Empire Rose (NZ)
1982....Heat Of The Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks (NZ)
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm (NZ)
1986....Courtza
1987....Let's Elope (NZ)
1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak (NZ)
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance (NZ)
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic (NZ)
1990....Snap (NZ)
 
1991....Circles Of Gold
1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil (NZ)
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Sunline (NZ)
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal (NZ)
1997....Unwordly
1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva (GB)
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange (NZ)
2003....Hot Danish
2003....Miss Finland
2003....Tuesday Joy (NZ)
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous (NZ)
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka
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100 is a nice round figure, But as you say eventually it got a little modern era heavy.




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MISS KATE (GB)Brown filly 1873 
Adventurer
Bay 1859
Newminster
Bay 1848
Touchstone
Brown 1831
Camel
Brown 1822
Whalebone
A Mare
1807
1812
1-o
24>
Banter
Brown 1826
Master Henry
Boadicea
1815
1807
3-b
14>
Beeswing
Bay 1833
Dr Syntax
Brown 1811
Paynator
A Mare
1791
0000
 
 
A Mare
Chestnut 1817
Ardrossan
Lady Eliza
1809
1813
2-a
8>
Palma
Brown 1840
Emilius
Bay 1820
Orville
Bay 1799
Beningbrough
Evelina
1791
1791
7>
8-a
Emily
Chestnut 1810
Stamford
A Mare
1794
1799
 
28>
Francesca
Brown 1829
Partisan
Bay 1811
Walton
Parasol
1799
1800
7>
1-e
A Mare
Brown 1815
Orville
A Mare
1799
1800
8-a
12-g
Sporting Life
Brown 1858
The Prime Minister
Brown 1848
Melbourne
Brown 1834
Humphrey Clinker
Bay 1822
Comus
Clinkerina
1809
1812
25>
8-a
A Mare
Bay 1825
Cervantes
A Mare
1806
1818
8-a
1-a
Pantalonade
Bay 1839
Pantaloon
Chestnut 1824
Castrel
Idalia
1801
1815
2-n
17-a
Festival
Black 1836
Camel
Michaelmas
1822
1818
24>
27>
Candlewick
Chestnut 1847
The Prime Warden
Bay 1834
Cadland
Brown 1825
Andrew
Sorcery
1816
1808
1-b
12-a
Zarina
Chestnut 1827
Morisco
Ina
1819
1821
12-c
17>
Maid of Burghley
Bay 1837
Sultan
Bay 1816
Selim
Bacchante
1802
1809
2-n
8-b
Palais Royal
Brown 1820
Blucher
A Mare
1811
1814
4-b
2-r
 Ancestor duplications:Camel4m x 5f Orville4m,5f x

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Interesting that she probably wouldn't make the list nor the dam of Phar Lap but Phar Laps sister Raphis would just about qualify depending on proper research.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Interesting that she probably wouldn't make the list nor the dam of Phar Lap but Phar Laps sister Raphis would just about qualify depending on proper research.

If you open that link I provide you might have a different idea ? 


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doesn't work for me Djebel.  Yes she had two stakes winners but not the three and above which I was starting with.
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I think AJC Derby winner Monte Carlo may have been out of a sister to Raphis , or a daughter of?
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

I think AJC Derby winner Monte Carlo may have been out of a sister to Raphis , or a daughter of?

Monte Carlo (NZ) 1953
 Aust.Id.: 214087bay stallionDate of Birth: 00/00/1953 
  
 by Lucky Bag (GB) 1944 
 from Bobalong (NZ) 1946 
  
Stakes or Principal Race Wins
YearRace NameStatusDistance
1956AJC DerbyPr12F
1956VRC Victoria DerbyPr12F
1957AJC St Leger StakesPr14F
1957City Tattersall's Club (Gold) CupPr12F
1958AJC The MetropolitanPr13F
1958STC CupPr12F
1958Tatt's NSW Club CupPr12F
1958VRC L.K.S Mackinnon StakesPr10F
1958VRC Queen's PlatePr10F

MONTE CARLO (NZ)Bay colt 1953 
Lucky Bag
Bay 1944
Windsor Slipper
Bay 1939
Windsor Lad
Bay 1931
Blandford
Bay 1919
Swynford
Blanche
1907
1912
1-g
3-o
Resplendent
Bay 1923
By George!
Sunbridge
1911
1914
4-n
19-b
Carpet Slipper
Bay 1930
Phalaris
Brown 1913
Polymelus
Bromus
1902
1905
3-f
1-i
Simon's Shoes
Bay 1914
Simon Square
Goody Two-Shoes
1904
1899
4-n
5-h
Sun Princess
Bay 1937
Solario
Bay 1922
Gainsborough
Bay 1915
Bayardo
Rosedrop
1906
1907
10-a
2-n
Sun Worship
Bay 1912
Sundridge
Doctrine
1898
1899
2-g
26>
Mumtaz Begum
Bay 1932
Blenheim
Brown 1927
Blandford
Malva
1919
1919
3-o
1-e
Mumtaz Mahal
Grey 1921
The Tetrarch
Lady Josephine
1911
1912
2-o
9-c
Bobalong
Brown 1946
Lord Bobs
Bay 1941
Nearco
Brown 1935
Pharos
Bay 1920
Phalaris
Scapa Flow
1913
1914
1-i
13-e
Nogara
Bay 1928
Havresac
Catnip
1915
1910
8-h
4-r
Sister Sarah
Bay 1930
Abbots Trace
Chestnut 1917
Tracery
Abbots Anne
1909
1899
19-a
4-j
Sarita
Brown 1924
Swynford
Molly Desmond
1907
1914
1-g
14-c
Raphis
Brown 1934
Night Raid
Bay 1918
Radium
Bay 1903
Bend Or
Taia
1877
1892
1-k
3-c
Sentiment
Bay 1912
Spearmint
Flair
1903
1903
1-c
1-m
Entreaty
Brown 1920
Winkie
Chestnut 1912
William the Third
Conjure
1898
1895
2-e
1-p
Prayer Wheel
Bay 1905
Pilgrim's Progress
Catherine Wheel
1889
1891
1-g
2-r
 Ancestor duplications:Swynford5m x 5f Blandford4m,5m x Phalaris4f x 5m


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That was quick lol, seen him on track, beautiful animal.
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Carioca, I assumptionise Monti Carlo was exported to America ?




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Also the family of Planet Kingdom who really should of been a Champion Sire if he hadn't died after he broke his leg in an accident.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Carioca, I assumptionise Monti Carlo was exported to America ?



Always of the opinion he was a gelding , most of trainer Frank Daltons were.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Carioca, I assumptionise Monti Carlo was exported to America ?



You are correct djebel, sold to America due to contractual clause , not allowed to be sold in OZ, definitely an entire, won races in US, go to horsesoftheyears blogspot. com,
scroll down r/h side, it's there.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Carioca, I assumptionise Monti Carlo was exported to America ?



You are correct djebel, sold to America due to contractual clause , not allowed to be sold in OZ, definitely an entire, won races in US, go to horsesoftheyears blogspot. com,
scroll down r/h side, it's there.

Pretty sure this is Tontonans site ? Beer


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Carioca, I assumptionise Monti Carlo was exported to America ?



You are correct djebel, sold to America due to contractual clause , not allowed to be sold in OZ, definitely an entire, won races in US, go to horsesoftheyears blogspot. com,
scroll down r/h side, it's there.


Pretty sure this is Tontonans site ? Beer

It is and it's an excellent site, a lot of work has gone into it fwiw.
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Lady Zetlandbay mare 1887  
Perkin Warbeck (GB)
Bay 1872
Adventurer
Bay 1859
Newminster
Bay 1848
Touchstone
Brown 1831
Camel
Banter
1822
1826
24>
14-a
Beeswing
Bay 1833
Dr Syntax
A Mare
1811
1817
 
8>
Palma
Brown 1840
Emilius
Bay 1820
Orville
Emily
1799
1810
8-a
28>
Francesca
Brown 1829
Partisan
A Mare
1811
1815
1-e
12-g
Bumblekite
Bay 1864
Voltigeur
Brown 1847
Voltaire
Brown 1826
Blacklock
A Mare
1814
1816
2-t
12-a
Martha Lynn
Brown 1837
Mulatto
Leda
1823
1824
5-a
2-f
Sweetbriar
Bay 1858
Stockwell
Chestnut 1849
The Baron
Pocahontas
1842
1837
24>
3-n
Eglantine
Bay 1853
The Flying Dutchman
Azalia
1846
1834
3-i
42>
Forget-Me-Not (GB)
Bay 1877
King Lud
Bay 1869
King Tom
Bay 1851
Harkaway
Chestnut 1834
Economist
Fanny Dawson
1825
1823
36>
2>
Pocahontas
Chestnut 1837
Glencoe
Marpessa
1831
1830
1-t
3-m
Qui Vive
Brown 1856
Voltigeur
Brown 1847
Voltaire
Martha Lynn
1826
1837
12-a
2-h
Mrs Ridgway
Bay 1849
Birdcatcher
Nan Darrell
1833
1844
11-d
19-b
Mysotis
Bay 1865
Newminster
Bay 1848
Touchstone
Brown 1831
Camel
Banter
1822
1826
24>
14-a
Beeswing
Bay 1833
Dr Syntax
A Mare
1811
1817
 
8>
Souvenir
Grey 1856
Chanticleer
Grey 1843
Birdcatcher
Whim
1833
1832
11-d
23>
Birthday
Bay 1850
Assault
Nitocris
1845
1829
20-a
11-g
 Ancestor duplications:Newminster3m x 3f Voltigeur3f x 4f Pocahontas5m x 4m 
  Birdcatcherx 5f,5m


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Just taking about good mares,  can I mentione Dark Jewel ?? 
animals before people.
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Yes she would be there.
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