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In chronological order
 

1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda
1886.....Cynisca
1887.....Lady Zetland
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform
1900....Gladsome

1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist
1910....Warstep
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle
1929....Silver Scorn

1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri
1946....Sweet Spray
1946....Chicquita
1952....Evening Peal
1953....Yahabeebe
1955....Wiggle

1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers
1966....Gay Poss
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate
1969....Analie
1970....Leilani
1969....Toltrice
1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denice's Joy

1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround
1975....My Blue Denim
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation
1980....Abit Leica
1981....Spirit Of Kingston

1981....Tristarc
1982....Heat Of The Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm
1986....Courtza
1986....Joanne
1987....Let's Elope

1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic
1990....Snap
1991....Circles Of Gold

1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Isca
1995....Sunline
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal
1997....Unwordly

1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange
2003....Hot Danish
2003....Miss Finland

2003....Tuesday Joy
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous 
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka









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Nice list.

I think Melbourne Cup winning filly Auraria deserves to be there though and I would have given some thought to True Course too, but these things go on forever. 

Now, put them in order of merit Big smile


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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

Nice list.

I think Melbourne Cup winning filly Auraria deserves to be there though and I would have given some thought to True Course too, but these things go on forever. 

Now, put them in order of merit Big smile



Analysis of Champion Racehorses by Peter Pring and The Thoroughbred Press published 1977, arrived this am and inspired this list, I had always wanted to do a list of mares.

I wonder why Auraria was not included in this book. All her winning was done 1895, I wonder if that counted against her ?


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Before we go Tontonan , there are 3 I'm glad to see on your list , 2 picked themselves being Wiggle and Wenona Girl, but the third Yahabeebe I was delighted to see , had a soft spot for her in my very young days , great list btw.
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Both mares records would get them in in front of some of the later mares I have included.




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In chronological order
 

1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda
1886.....Cynisca
1887.....Lady Zetland
1892.....Auraria
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform

1900....Gladsome
1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist
1910....Warstep
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle

1929....Silver Scorn
1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri
1946....Sweet Spray
1946....Chicquita
1847....True Course
1952....Evening Peal

1953....Yahabeebe
1955....Wiggle
1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers
1966....Gay Poss
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate
1969....Analie
1970....Leilani
1969....Toltrice

1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denice's Joy
1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround
1975....My Blue Denim
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation

1980....Abit Leica
1981....Spirit Of Kingston
1981....Tristarc
1982....Heat Of The Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm
1986....Courtza

1986....Joanne
1987....Let's Elope
1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic

1990....Snap
1991....Circles Of Gold
1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Sunline
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal

1997....Unwordly
1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange
2003....Hot Danish

2003....Miss Finland
2003....Tuesday Joy
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous 
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka

I have eliminated Isca, her career was very brilliant but was just as brief as it was brilliant. Joanne if I am not mistaken is the only non group 1 winner on the list but she was one of the best sprinters I have seen. 

This leaves the list at 101 Embarrassed 

Do not hesitate to nominate fillies and mares I have missed or you believe deserves recognition. 




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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Analie?

You do not believe she should be there ?




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No , sorry I didn't see her on the list.
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Unworldly? Surely a mare like Mosheen goes in ahead of her.
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Maybe a few borderline cases djebel, Begonia Belle, Citius, Indian Summer, Lady Sybil.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Empire Rose?

That was a poor miss by me considering she is my timeline.  Thumbs Up


Mosheen could possibly be there in front of others but Unwordly did live up to her name and I could not drop her for Mosheen...




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One other who certainly should be there is Storm Queen.


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

In chronological order
 

1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda
1886.....Cynisca
1887.....Lady Zetland
1892.....Auraria
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform

1900....Gladsome
1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist
1910....Warstep
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle

1929....Silver Scorn
1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri
1946....Sweet Spray
1946....Chicquita
1847....True Course
1952....Evening Peal

1953....Yahabeebe
1955....Wiggle
1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers
1966....Gay Poss
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate
1969....Analie
1970....Leilani
1969....Toltrice

1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denice's Joy
1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround
1975....My Blue Denim
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation

1980....Abit Leica
1981....Spirit Of Kingston
1981....Tristarc
1982....Empire Rose
1982....Heat Of The Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm
1986....Courtza
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1986....Joanne
1987....Let's Elope
1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic

1990....Snap
1991....Circles Of Gold
1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Sunline
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal

1997....Unwordly
1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange
2003....Hot Danish

2003....Miss Finland
2003....Tuesday Joy
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous 
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka

I have eliminated Isca, her career was very brilliant but was just as brief as it was brilliant. Joanne if I am not mistaken is the only non group 1 winner on the list but she was one of the best sprinters I have seen. 

This leaves the list at 102 Embarrassed 

Do not hesitate to nominate fillies and mares I have missed or you believe deserves recognition. 




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

[QUOTE=Passing Through]Mosheen could possibly be there in front of others but Unwordly did live up to her name and I could not drop her for Mosheen...

Right or wrong there'll possibly be a cloud over Mosheen given her trainer's behavior during her time-line.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Maybe a few borderline cases djebel, Begonia Belle, Citius, Indian Summer, Lady Sybil.

Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

One other who certainly should be there is Storm Queen.



I wonder why they did not make the cut for THE BOOK ?

I really must read the introduction. Smile Perhaps he explains what criteria he used. 




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Pring does outline his criteria in his introduction and it explains most of his omissions.   Too detailed to reproduce here.  

One more I would consider would be Waltzing Lily, an excellent short courser from the early 1930's - but don't ask me who to leave out if you want to keep the list to 100. 

An interesting sidelight is that off the 100 race mares listed 3 produced Melbourne Cup winners - Wakeful, Horlicks and Rose of Kingston (which is pretty good given that the mares on the list are not exclusively staying types).
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Just for info:

True Course - 9 Principal wins
Storm Queen - 10 Principal wins
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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Pring does outline his criteria in his introduction and it explains most of his omissions.   Too detailed to reproduce here.  </span><div style="line-height: 16.8px;">
<div style="line-height: 16.8px;">One more I would consider would be Waltzing Lily, an excellent short courser from the early 1930's - but don't ask me who to leave out if you want to keep the list to 100. <div style="line-height: 16.8px;">
<div style="line-height: 16.8px;">An interesting sidelight is that off the 100 race mares listed 3 produced Melbourne Cup winners - Wakeful, Horlicks and Rose of Kingston (which is pretty good given that the mares on the list are not exclusively staying types).


He started off with horses who won greater than 50% of their races, he also wanted them to have at least one major handicap carrying greater than WFA and worked from there.



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Alternatively Pring allowed for 

-- horses that had run a national time record or a race record in a principal race, 

-- that the horse should have performed at the championship level for at least 3 campaigns, 

-- and they had 20 starts or more.

-- and won a principal race in Melbourne or Sydney, Auckland or Wellington. 

He also admits he stretched his guidelines to include horses that didn't meet them but he regarded worthy.  Even then he regrets not having been able to find space for NTB's like Aquanita and horses like Gothic.
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It might be easier on the scrolling wheels if we squeeze them into a table like this....

1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda
1886.....Cynisca
1887.....Lady Zetland
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform
1900....Gladsome
1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist
1910....Warstep
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle
1929....Silver Scorn
1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri
1946....Sweet Spray
1946....Chicquita
1952....Evening Peal
1953....Yahabeebe
1955....Wiggle
1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers
1966....Gay Poss
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate
1969....Analie
1970....Leilani
1969....Toltrice
1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denice's Joy
1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround
1975....My Blue Denim
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation
1980....Abit Leica
1981....Spirit Of Kingston
 
1981....Tristarc
1982....Heat OfThe Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm
1986....Courtza
1986....Joanne
1987....Let's Elope
1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic
1990....Snap
1991....Circles Of Gold
1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Isca
1995....Sunline
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal
1997....Unwordly
1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange
2003....Hot Danish
2003....Miss Finland
2003....Tuesday Joy
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous 
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka
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Or even better...

1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda
1886.....Cynisca
1887.....Lady Zetland
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform
1900....Gladsome
1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist
1910....Warstep
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle
1929....Silver Scorn
1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri
1946....Sweet Spray
1946....Chicquita
1952....Evening Peal
1953....Yahabeebe
1955....Wiggle
1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers
1966....Gay Poss
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate
1969....Analie
1970....Leilani
1969....Toltrice
1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denice's Joy
1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround
1975....My Blue Denim
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation
1980....Abit Leica
1981....Spirit Of Kingston
 
1981....Tristarc
1982....Heat OfThe Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm
1986....Courtza
1986....Joanne
1987....Let's Elope
1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic
1990....Snap
1991....Circles Of Gold
1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Isca
1995....Sunline
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal
1997....Unwordly
1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange
2003....Hot Danish
2003....Miss Finland
2003....Tuesday Joy
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous 
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka
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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

Or even better...

1867.....Florence
1869.....Lurline
1873.....Briseis
1870.....Hilda
1886.....Cynisca
1887.....Lady Zetland
1894.....La Carabine
1896.....Wakeful
1898....Cruciform
1900....Gladsome
1900....Sweet Nell
1902....Lady Wallace
1906....Lady Medallist
1910....Warstep
1911....Carlita
1912....Desert Gold
1918....Furious
1922....Valicare
1929....Cuddle
1929....Silver Scorn
1933....Rivette  ntb
1937....Tranquil Star
1945....Flight
1941....Rainbird
1942....Soneri
1946....Sweet Spray
1946....Chicquita
1952....Evening Peal
1953....Yahabeebe
1955....Wiggle
1957....Wenona Girl
1961....Light Fingers
1966....Gay Poss
1967....Dual Choice
1969....Show Gate
1969....Analie
1970....Leilani
1969....Toltrice
1971....Cap D'Antibes
1972....Denice's Joy
1972....Maybe Mahal
1972....Toy Show
1973....Desirable
1973....Surround
1975....My Blue Denim
1978....November Rain
1978....Rose Of Kingston
1979....Emancipation
1980....Abit Leica
1981....Spirit Of Kingston
 
1981....Tristarc
1982....Empire Rose
1982....Heat Of The Moment
1983....Bounding Away
1983....Horlicks
1983....Special
1985....Research
1985....Riverina Charm
1986....Courtza
1987....Let's Elope
1987....Mannerism
1987....Triscay
1989....Burst
1989....Miltak
1989....Skating
1989....Slight Chance
1990....Angst
1990....Electronic
1990....Snap
1991....Circles Of Gold
1993....Dane Ripper
1994....Tycoon Lil
1995....Grand Archway
1995....Isca
1995....Sunline
1996....Miss Pennymoney
1996....Spinning Hill
1997....Belle du Jeur
1997....Ethereal
1997....Unwordly
1998....Republic Lass
1999....Makybe Diva
1999....Private Steer
2000...Shamekha
2001...Alinghi
2001...Lotteria
2001...Miss Andretti
2002....Seachange
2003....Hot Danish
2003....Miss Finland
2003....Tuesday Joy
2005....Typhoon Tracy
2006....Black Caviar
2006....More Joyous 
2007....Pinker Pinker
2008....Atlantic Jewel
2008....Silent Achiever
2011....Winx
2012....English
2012....Jameka

Outstanding as usual Tontonan.


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It would also be interesting to do the same with broodmares - the greatest 100 Australasian Broodmares throughout time.  Interesting that some of the oldest mares on that list have female lines still producing stakes horses.  My namesake isn't one of them as she didn't have any foals.  From one extreme to the next.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

It would also be interesting to do the same with broodmares - the greatest 100 Australasian Broodmares throughout time.  Interesting that some of the oldest mares on that list have female lines still producing stakes horses.  My namesake isn't one of them as she didn't have any foals.  From one extreme to the next.

Where would you start ?




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The producers of more that three G1 winners and move up or down as the case may be.  You could put in mares who only produced stakes winners etc.  Or then you could add ones with only winning foals and most stakes winners etc.  Dams of Champions usually wouldn't make the list as Champions seem to be one offs.  Except of course with Octagonal's dam etc.
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Sunbride might be there furious?
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I was going to look into it from a Matriarchs point of view or taproot much like I understand Bruce Lowe was about ?




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Well you could do either.  Taproot mare line still producing today will find mares like Juliet, Eulogy, Manto etc and they would be on the other list also although Manto you'd have to take on race credit so maybe not.  She was well before the real G1 races started.
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