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    Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 10:00pm
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It should come as no surprise that I'm not a fan of lads' mags. As a young feminist who studied media and communications, I'm hardly the target market for a class of magazines that have in the past advertised a search for "Australia's Hottest Asylum Seeker" and worshipped an oversexed octogenarian in a velour robe. It's just not my thing.

But it's never been the nudity that offended me; it's the content. While it may seem a truth universally acknowledged that all men love sex, booze and well-defined abdominal muscles, I've always found the concept of such magazines hard to grasp. Surely, men aren't so uncomplicated. Barring those in particularly vicious spells of puberty-induced madness, I can't help but assume young men have further interests than a cold tinnie and a nice pair of tits.

Now, the latest stats from Australia and abroad seem to be supporting my assertion. Both Ralph and FHM Australia have completely shut up shop over the past few years. Zoo Weekly stands as the last of the lads' mags on our shores and, in the past 18 months, its print readership has dropped a whopping 34.87 per cent. That's close to a quarter of a million men collectively deciding "pub ammo" and pics of "bikini bridges" just aren't enough.

While of course this isn't an outright death warrant, it is enough to provoke some questions. Is this breed of Hugh Hefner-meets-Inbetweeners masculinity that such publications peddle finally losing its appeal?

If you speak to Brendon Hill, the Australian publisher of Zoo Weekly and 27 other lifestyle publications at Bauer Media, the answer is unsurprisingly no.

"In fact, the story is one of growth for Zoo over its multiple platforms," he tells me. "The Zoo Weekly brand is at record levels for brand interactions across its multiple platforms … it delivered more than 5.3 million brand interactions in the month of December 2013 across Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, YouTube, website, EDMs, tablet, oh and the print version."

Through our correspondence, it's clear that Hill has a background in marketing. His answers are all peppered with the buzzwords of a great pitch. It's all about "innovation" and "evolution". "Young men are consuming print products less across the board, no matter the genre," he says. "[But] the print figures are what seems to be the conversation."

Although the assertion is undoubtedly true, this doesn't account for the fact that Zoo is in fact suffering the worst. In the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Circulations, the magazine has seen the second-largest drop recorded by any of the nation's major publications in the year. Second only to fellow Bauer publication TechLife, Zoo recorded a circulation decline of nearly 20 per cent in the last half of the year alone.

Hill maintains the magazine's readers – "[those who] consider themselves a typical Aussie bloke" – are now all consuming the product online. "We are in the business of entertainment so we compete with anything that young men fill their spare time with, especially social media, gaming, and online," Hill says. "[This is why] we have moved our content delivery to these channels."



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Yet women will nearly always decide on a partner based on whether he can provide money and stability for them, and they call men shallow...sheeesh.
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Yet women will nearly always decide on a partner based on whether he can provide money and stability for them, and they call men shallow...sheeesh.


Add to that, being able provide support during marriage and in the event of divorce.
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She take my money, well I'm in need
Yeah she's a triflin' friend indeed
Oh she's a gold digger way over time
That digs on me.

Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in need)
But she ain't messin' wit no broke, broke (She steal me money)


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Playboy to see its historical worth. Although it's easy to poke fun at Hefner and his infamous debauchery, his magazine originated as an incredibly prolific publication. In the '60s and '70s it was home to the likes of Kerouac, Steinbeck and Vonnegut. In 1964, Hefner even published a posthumous essay by Ernest Hemingway aptly titled "Advice to a Young Man".

"I consider ignorance the primary enemy of mankind," Hemingway wrote. "All the glory of life, all the romance of living, all the deep and true joys of the world, all the splendour and the mystery are within our reach."

It's become a punchline over the years, but yes, there really were people "reading it for the articles".

In its first issue of this year, the 60th anniversary edition, Playboy offered a throwback to this journalistic heyday. It published an essay from philosopher Slavoj Zizek, the "lost letters" of Hunter S. Thompson and William S. Burroughs, and an extended spread of Kate Moss dressed – or undressed – in traditional bunny garb. It offered some nostalgia – an homage to a time when pornography and quality could co-exist.

Perhaps this is the kind of beacon lads' mags can take example from today. Such magazines stemmed from a concern of what makes a man, and with publications such as Smith on the rise, it's clear the answer to that question is more than boobs, beer and belly laughs.

 


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Mens mags going out of fashion due to internet porn. No brainer I would have though.
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Hmm, another insightful thread .
Its becoming a bit like a girl,s  fan magazine !
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Yet women will nearly always decide on a partner based on whether he can provide money and stability for them, and they call men shallow...sheeesh.

 not one of my women friends have married for stability and money...most were working, and in several cases, the woman earned more than their husbands...

 you must know some shallow women...

 of course, men don't go for big-boobs over fried eggs...or blondes over brownettes...like hell, they don't...

 look at all the footballers' wives...about 90% are blonde...with noticeable cleavages...

 Confused

 
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Originally posted by BrokePunter BrokePunter wrote:

Mens mags going out of fashion due to internet porn. No brainer I would have though.

 obviously...Embarrassed

 
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Yet women will nearly always decide on a partner based on whether he can provide money and stability for them, and they call men shallow...sheeesh.
Oh, tough titties for you, you poor thing !
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Imagine, as newspapers and magazines recently have, the “plight of the high-status woman.” She is a well-educated young woman in her 30s, earns a good salary, and has a great social life — but she is single and is worried that her success might be the reason she has not met a man to marry. Any hint of bad news about the successful or talented has always made headlines, but media pessimism about the happiness and life balance of millions of young, career-oriented women has struck a chord nationwide.

For a generation of SWANS — Strong Women Achievers, No Spouse — these myths have become conventional wisdom. If you attended a good school, have an impressive job, have career aspirations or dream of future success, men will find you less attractive. “I’ve been told by well-meaning relatives: ‘Don’t talk about work on a date, dumb it down, and it’s bad to earn so much money because guys will be scared of you.’ And I got the word ‘intimidating’ a lot,” said Alexis, a 35-year-old lawyer in San Francisco.

She’s not alone. Nearly half of single women believe their professional success is intimidating to the men they meet. Put another way, many high-achieving women think their success is not helping them find love. Some 66 percent of SWANS disagree with the statement “My career or educational success increases my chances of getting married.”

Young women are pursuing education and dream careers and embarking on international adventures of their own. “Women who are successful aren’t trying to just get married. They want to travel, be cultured. If we’re single, it has a lot to do with our decisions,” said Kim. Her book club partner Jill agreed: “We’re not in a rush. A lot of women are going to graduate school, and it strains the relationship. My mom followed my dad everywhere. It’s not for lack of opportunity that I’m single; it’s because of a generational change of priorities. If you are successful, there’s no big rush to have anyone take care of you.”



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Why are women happier being by themselves than men?


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/blogs/citykat/why-are-women-happier-being-by-themselves-than-men-20140626-3avzh.html#ixzz35vv9H6cN

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Why are women happier being by themselves than men? The mass media spews up images of miserable, dateless, slightly crazy cat ladies all the time. We’re reminded of the lady bits that tick and the hollowness of motherhoodlessness. Spinsterhood still seems less sexy and fun than being a bachelor. Certainly, stereotypes are silly things to buy into – though isn’t there some small grain of truth to them?

Possibly. Indeed, the notion of a forlorn, forgotten single lady was probably – unfortunately – more relevant 50 years ago than it is now. And I say "unfortunately", because it should never have been a common notion to begin with. Women should have had the chance to envisage their life without husbands and kids if they so desired – just as men did, and still do. Yet women were taught, and are taught, that a lot of their self-worth should come from motherhood and/or wifehood – singlehood be damned.

So, at first glance, I’m encouraged by the figures that suggest more women than men now enjoy the single life. Seems like babes are bachin’ like blokes, finally! However, stats deserve second looks, and this case isn’t the exception.

While single women are happier than single men overall, a closer inspection reveals satisfaction shares a relationship with age. According to the report, women over 40 are more likely to report being happy with single life than women aged between 30 and 39. And women under 30 are also more happy being single than the 30 to 39 age group.




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MEN have NO brains or they would have been the ones riding side saddle
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

MEN have NO brains or they would have been the ones riding side saddle

Baa haa haa ha!

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Originally posted by Oritah Oritah wrote:


Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

MEN have NO brains or they would have been the ones riding side saddle


Baa haa haa ha!



DON'T encourage him Oritah.    He's erratic when he's been on crushed nuts.
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There are guys that want a woman that is smart and can be an
"equal partner" in a relationship. There are also guys that want to control the relationship, so they chose women that are more easily manipulated. It becomes a matter of what is more fulfilling on an individual basis.

But for the most part it is looks that are going to attract a guy at first anyway. And if the guy is just looking to get laid without any commitment, then an intelligent woman is more likely to see through his games and simply pass on him. Guys know this so they usually don't "waste their time".
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then there are guys,,and gals,, who see that beauty is only skin deep and its whats in the heart and mind thats important.
and alcohol was invented so nasty/ugly/shallow/ guys get laid .
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What happened to good old fashioned romance, being with someone because you love them, rather than how intelligent they are and how much they earn? And as for 'dumbing down' for them, surely they should accept you brains or not?!



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didnt i just say that, one post before yours  ???Cry
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Why are women happier being by themselves than men?


 because..
 1. we don't have to put the toilet seat down ever again..
 2. we don't fall into the non-seated toilet in the dark at night...
 3. we can eat salads and casual meals and don't have to cook massive hot meals...
 4. we can stay out as long as we like without the Spanish Inquisition...
 5. we can have the TV all to ourselves and watch chick-flicks..
 6. we don't have to comply with sex when THEY are in the mood and we aren't...
 7. when WE are in the mood there is always a magic wand to replace him...without the after-snore...Embarrassed
 8. we can go on holiday where WE want to go... 
 9. we can dress as we like and not to please his eye...
 10. we can leave our legs unshaven all Winter without him bitching about the fuzz scratching..
 11.we don't have to clean the vanity every day after he shaves...
 12. we don't have to wash his smelly socks and jocks or remove his stinking sneakers to the verandah to breathe...
 13. we don't have to put up with the dog being blamed for his flatulence...  
 14. we can stay up late, sleep in, have friends over anytime and talk as loud as we like...and play our favourite music...
 
 there's plenty more...but you get the drift...Nuts!

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A rather timely offering from acacia:

A touching story on how men think……




            As she sat by him, he whispered, his eyes full of tears, "You know what? You have been with me all through the bad times.

            When I got fired, you were there to support me.

            When my business failed, you were there.

            When I got shot, you were by my side.

            When we lost the house, you stayed right here.

            When my health started failing, you were still by my side...

            You know what Martha?"

            "What dear?" she gently asked, smiling as her heart began to fill with warmth.

            "I'm beginning to think you're f**king bad luck."

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Bright Day's longest lasting love affair is with himself, some might say. Actually, it would be sad were it otherwise. It doesn't make sense to expect that others should love you, when you don't see yourself as lovable !
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You pose a touching expose into my inner heart. Thank you Tuft.


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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

then there are guys,,and gals,, who see that beauty is only skin deep and its whats in the heart and mind thats important.
and alcohol was invented so nasty/ugly/shallow/ guys get laid .


acacia just read that bit in the bold out loud to yourself, then tell me you aren't serious are you...??

do you even understand what alcohol is, in it's basic fundamental state...?


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A leg-opener ? Yep, that's what it is.

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 I think the ladies get plied with the booze...otherwise they wouldn't look twice...


 
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Why are women happier being by themselves than men?


 because..
 1. we don't have to put the toilet seat down ever again....never lift the seat and never fail to clean it
 2. we don't fall into the non-seated toilet in the dark at night...
 3. we can eat salads and casual meals and don't have to cook massive hot meals...I cook everything
 4. we can stay out as long as we like without the Spanish Inquisition...stay out as long as you want imo
 5. we can have the TV all to ourselves and watch chick-flicks...yawn
 6. we don't have to comply with sex when THEY are in the mood and we aren't...
 7. when WE are in the mood there is always a magic wand to replace him...without the after-snore...Embarrassed
 8. we can go on holiday where WE want to go... I've yet to go on a holiday I want to go to
 9. we can dress as we like and not to please his eye...I couldn't care less what a woman wears..
 10. we can leave our legs unshaven all Winter without him bitching about the fuzz scratching..
 11.we don't have to clean the vanity every day after he shaves...I clean up my own shaves, she however leaves her hairs everywhere..
 12. we don't have to wash his smelly socks and jocks or remove his stinking sneakers to the verandah to breathe...my feet don't smell, nor do I need a woman to wash my socks.
 13. we don't have to put up with the dog being blamed for his flatulence...because women don't fart..?
 14. we can stay up late, sleep in, have friends over anytime and talk as loud as we like...and play our favourite music...yes do as much of that as you want, you always have from day one anyways..
 
 there's plenty more...but you get the drift...Nuts!



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A relative was once heard to credit cheap sparkling wine ( "Starwine", "Rheingold", "Kaiser Stuhl" etc) with magical qualities that led to many a torrid embrace, sadly though, I suspect when the effects wore off there was frequently regrets that prevented longer term relationships.
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Originally posted by Tuft_it_Tees Tuft_it_Tees wrote:

A relative was once heard to credit cheap sparkling wine ( "Starwine", "Rheingold", "Kaiser Stuhl" etc) with magical qualities that led to many a torrid embrace, sadly though, I suspect when the effects wore off there was frequently regrets that prevented longer term relationships.


deary me you're a real magnet for people telling you things eh...you have a story from someone for every topic it would seem, either you spend a lot of time at the bar in pubs, hang around shopping centers all day or are a volunteer phoner for life line...Confused
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