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Remember that through this topic, I have spoken about lines and even characteristics that have worked the female family.  Simply put, I do not believe that these exist sufficiently in the mating.

One issue that has not been raised, but should certainly be considered is why a strategy of breeding to race should include a first season sire and a maiden mare.  Some risk can be managed relatively easily.
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anyone using Annenkov this season great rates
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Grey Swallow an impressive type got fresh blood not like a lot of stallions with Danehill on both sides.Be interested in your thoughts at$4400 looks very appealing if you had a suitable mare!!!
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One issue that has not been raised, but should certainly be considered is why a strategy of breeding to race should include a first season sire and a maiden mare.  Some risk can be managed relatively easily.
 
so what are you saying now , that never use the above mentioned , why !!!  if breeding true to type,   as it is quite clear ,  you dont agree with any of the readily available information that is available , nicks ,tesio  g1 , bla bla  bla ,information ,  so i could only think  that you breed for type,or  more to  it your type !!! 
the only question that needs to be answered is this one , pro quote "I am very confident that Annenkov/Swanz will result in an ordinary racing prospect."
Based on what  !!!!  opinion, fact,  your likes or dislikes   type  or breeding  
 
this is the only one that needs to be answered,  because here we may be on the crust of  makings of a legend , a true horse maker , maybe we could call it  proway or noway   and given that 9 out of 10 horses do not make it any way,  well   , i  think i will fall short calling u a nostra type figure 
 
but really really want this answer
 
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Must say I have to agree with Progold here: even if to some extent for different reasons.
It's hard to match Swanz's dam Fikra - essentially because she's from an American family whose members aren't much represented downunder.
 
However it's far easier to match up her sire Van Nistelrooy with stallions from the Danehill sire line, which means there's plenty to choose from.  And which therefore begs the question as to why Annenkov in particular was plucked out of the pack.
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runfer dont get me wrong , i believe Pro does put up a considerable  food for thought type arguement , in most cases !!  and yes, can be very logical , and    ask for proof , in the stormcat danhill saga ,  but yet makes outlandish statements that no proof is availabe, so   isnt that the hole issue  that  was on about in the 1st place , no proof , that nicking  and all the other stuff is useless and 50 50 chance e and bla bla bla
additionally because fikra family is out of the USA does it make it no good ,does unproveN make anythng no good , but i actually believe it is proven ,   give that one of her offsprng has won nearly $1 mill au,  in HK  and the 2nd gen has the 2007  usa sprint champ  and that a horse won the breeders cup not once but twice , considering there are very few horses  to do this in the history , and we are talking in the 2nd dame  not 5 and 6th here, and that swanz won 100 k herself  which in victoria prov and city  is hard to do ,  
given that fikra is a mr p mare and we certainly have information on them , especially with danehill
 given that i believe that stromcat  x danehill or danzig storm bird are a proven thing , as was the original statement,  and for what its worth nd x nd 4x4 or 5x 5 ,and actaully closer if i could get it ,  
 
given that annenkov dam has produced 3 international multi grp 1 winners  and 3 stakes  winners and was  grp 1 placed  and stakes winner  many times herself , considering that her dam has one on the most impressive resumes a brood mare can have in the world ,
 
 and not but least annenkov himself out of the immortal danehill ,where raced in 3 continents  and in top company is in itself an achievment because he proved beyound doubt his ability , but also longevity as he was running as a 7 yr old,  grp 2 winner  and 2nd  in  grp 1 against some of the best milers  aust has to offer. 
 And having a sound danhill stallion that as above mentioned  to a very tough stormcat mr p line mare to me makes sense, 
 
 and i doubt tauto picked it out of a pack,  it would be closer to home than that
 
but for the life of me i can not see how someone as astute  as Pro,  and im not taking he piss here either  can make such a bullgelati statement  that the offspring wil never Make a race horse
 
thats about it ,
 
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l will keep u posted on mating and outcome!!!!
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sWANZ SHOULD BE UP THE DUFF BY NOW!!!Clap
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hey taunto i heard you suckholed another marquet , invite to the spring  carnival,  fck  i hope it rains LOL
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i'm sure l can pull a few strings and get u into marquee.l'm very keen to discuss your broodmares and yearlings u have on the ground and SAHARA!!!
 
R u keen on Grand Final breakfast and lead up lunches if your available we could touchbase before hand.I went to a fantastic lunch last year at Flemmington in the lead up to Grand Final day.I can recommend that as well.

My Keep The Faith Mare is back in work with Matty Williams and is coming along quite well latest news is she will have trial late October and Italian Machine will be back late november.
U mentioned u have a Court Of Jewels filly with Bennett about to run all the best and kep me posted.

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If u can come l'll intro u to some Chinese horse investorsWink
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she got a spook by 2 rouge rotties,on friday  flicked the rider ,and went gallping down the road , with 2 mad dogs after her ,  she got away  but slipped going through the gate , ok, but had to have a bit of bute ,  it may be the 1st  for the new dangerous dogs rules , if she had of hurt herself seriously ,  i would of shot them ,   she is expected to have her final trial next week  and then into the 3 yr old fillies , 
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lets hope ya chinese horse man not called  whoflungdun ,  
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Any news to report on Scent Above filly with Bennett and Swanz update send private.HBF upto 800 in evens last 400 in 26sec did on her ear!!!!
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Hows Honey Bee Faithfuls little sister going out of Rakti?
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Anyone got a yearling out of Annenkov if so luv some pics or a mare in foal?
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Swanz is doing well so far in foal to Annenkov,has anyone else got a mare in foal to him?
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Has anyone got a foal out of Annenkov and if so love a photo?
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Has anyone got any updates on Annenkov,how many mares he served etc?
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i believe 36 mares this year ,which isnt bad considering how the season was , dont reckon they will retire on it though,  a good bunch of mares this year though , a strong victorian contingent,  believe there are a few nice foals  this year as well  ,     
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has he got any live foals on the ground yet?
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