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Absolutely stunning pedigree Sir Guv.

Gee she had a soft run last week, The jockey was very soft on her. Might have a small wager on her thanks Sir Guv. 

She is bred to be an Oaks filly through and through.

EPERDUMENT (AUS)Bay filly 2014 
Americain
Bay or brown 2005
Dynaformer
Bay or brown 1985
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Andover Way
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
On the Trail
Bay 1964
Olympia
Golden Trail
1946
1958
4-p
4-r
America
Chestnut 1997
Arazi
Chestnut 1989
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Danseur Fabuleux
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fabuleux Jane
1961
1974
2-d
7>
Green Rosy
Bay or brown 1984
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Round the Rosie
Bay 1973
Cornish Prince
Rosayya
1962
1952
1-s
1-n
Cislunar
Bay 2009
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Moonsprite
Bay 2000
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Con Game
Bay or brown 1974
Buckpasser
Broadway
1963
1959
1-s
5-c
Moonshell
Bay 1992
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Moon Cactus
Bay 1987
Kris
Lady Moon
1976
1980
2-o
1-s
 Ancestor duplications:His Majesty4f x 5f Northern Dancer5f x 5m,5m Nijinsky5m x 5f


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Gets his first winner in Aus (SH?) with Queen Consort saluting at Ipswich. 2nd up at 1600ish.

Trainer says she's from the same family as Worthy Cause.
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[QUOTE=Red Hare] Gets his first winner in Aus (SH?) with Queen Consort saluting at Ipswich. 2nd up at 1600ish.

Trainer says she's from the same family as Worthy Cause, which would be the Shogun Lodge/Referral family... and, from what I can tell, the dam is closely related to Irish Constabulary.

Nice family. Hopefully this filly gets to an Oaks level, or something around 2000m.
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Pretty sure 2nd winner Red.
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Just had a winner at Donald.
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NIce potential Broodmare by him up for sale on bloodstock auction
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AMERICAN DELUXE (USA)Chestnut colt 2014 
Americain
Bay or brown 2005
Dynaformer
Bay or brown 1985
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Andover Way
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
On the Trail
Bay 1964
Olympia
Golden Trail
1946
1958
4-p
4-r
America
Chestnut 1997
Arazi
Chestnut 1989
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Danseur Fabuleux
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fabuleux Jane
1961
1974
2-d
7>
Green Rosy
Bay or brown 1984
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Round the Rosie
Bay 1973
Cornish Prince
Rosayya
1962
1952
1-s
1-n
California Sunset
Chestnut 2001
Deputy Minister
Bay or brown 1979
Vice Regent
Chestnut 1967
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Victoria Regina
Chestnut 1958
Menetrier
Victoriana
1944
1952
15-b
10-c
Mint Copy
Bay or brown 1970
Bunty's Flight
Bay 1953
Bunty Lawless
Broomflight
1935
1947
23-b
19-b
Shakney
Bay or brown 1964
Jabneh
Grass Shack
1952
1951
2-n
10-a
Our Dear Sue
Chestnut 1986
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Outward Sunshine
Chestnut 1974
Graustark
Chestnut 1963
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Golden Trail
Bay or brown 1958
Hasty Road
Sunny Vale
1951
1946
3-n
4-r
 Ancestor duplications:Roberto3m x 3f Ribot5m x 5m Flower Bowl5m x 5m 
  Golden Trail5f x 4f Northern Dancer5f x 4m


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Nice debut from ALABAMA MAN last week. Must say it looked like a very very quiet ride
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Nice debut from ALABAMA MAN last week. Must say it looked like a very very quiet ride

Yes I was not impressed, I had a good speculator on him.




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How are we feeling about this guy making it at stud now? Anyone have/know of promising progeny by him? Is that cross with Vain that posters were keen on working?
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Nice debut from ALABAMA MAN last week. Must say it looked like a very very quiet ride


Yes I was not impressed, I had a good speculator on him.




I suspect the $6 the place may be good value today

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Bloody hell. That was a shocker
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Bloody hell. That was a shocker


Needs a bit of speed trained into it or it’ll be looking for a 3000m maiden
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He seemed to go backwards from a nice promising effort on debut.

Will not give up on him.

Americain had a solid winner in WA yesterday, Looked very impressive in the Peters colours.




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How is this bloke going ?
Loved him as a racer but not sure about him now.
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Think he is going great.


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Sugarcain went pretty well. Lots don’t seem to have much pace, and I think putting a stamina mare to him is a mistake.
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That is not the mistake.

Australian trainers are the mistake.



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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

That is not the mistake.

Australian trainers are the mistake.

 
Time and patience and some ground.
Wouldn't be hard to work them out you wouldnt think.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

That is not the mistake.

Australian trainers are the mistake.



Blame our facilities, programming and impatient owners as well
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Blue Jay Way a nicish winner for Americain.


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This gelding started a short priced favourite at Balaklava just now and was bloused after showing quite a lot of speed.

LEORBIT (AUS)Bay gelding 2014 
Americain
Bay or brown 2005
Dynaformer
Bay or brown 1985
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Andover Way
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
On the Trail
Bay 1964
Olympia
Golden Trail
1946
1958
4-p
4-r
America
Chestnut 1997
Arazi
Chestnut 1989
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Danseur Fabuleux
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fabuleux Jane
1961
1974
2-d
7>
Green Rosy
Bay or brown 1984
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Round the Rosie
Bay 1973
Cornish Prince
Rosayya
1962
1952
1-s
1-n
La Poupee
Grey 2008
Dash for Cash
Grey 1998
Secret Savings
Bay 1991
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Con Game
1970
1974
13-c
5-c
Jurisdictional
Chestnut 1986
Damascus
Resolver
1964
1974
8-h
5-f
Gulistan
Grey 1991
Rubiton
Brown 1983
Century
Ruby
1969
1977
20>
4-l
Gulet
Grey 1985
Kalaglow
Packet
1978
1972
2-i
11-d
Flying Love
Brown 1996
St Covet
Bay 1991
Covetous
Bay or brown 1979
Luskin Star
Admire
1974
1969
2-e
2-b
Top Up
Bay 1985
Sound Reason
Lumiere
1974
1975
21-a
5-d
She Flys
Bay 1983
Nuclear Power
Chestnut 1976
Power House
Purple and Gold
1953
1969
13-e
29>
Miss Tanith
Bay 1976
Star of Heaven
Casimonde
1961
1972
2-o
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This one debuts in a few minutes over 1100m at Grafton.

Wonder what Americains figures at this stage. How many Oaks and Derby horses has he had ?

DARAMER (AUS)Brown gelding 2014 
Americain
Bay or brown 2005
Dynaformer
Bay or brown 1985
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Andover Way
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
On the Trail
Bay 1964
Olympia
Golden Trail
1946
1958
4-p
4-r
America
Chestnut 1997
Arazi
Chestnut 1989
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Danseur Fabuleux
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fabuleux Jane
1961
1974
2-d
7>
Green Rosy
Bay or brown 1984
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Round the Rosie
Bay 1973
Cornish Prince
Rosayya
1962
1952
1-s
1-n
Saladare
Brown 1999
Scenic
Bay 1986
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Idyllic
Black 1982
Foolish Pleasure
Bay 1972
What a Pleasure
Fool-Me-Not
1965
1958
5-f
14-b
Where You Lead
Chestnut 1970
Raise a Native
Noblesse
1961
1960
8-f
14-f
Palace Talk
Bay 1992
Ron Bon
Bay 1985
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Confirm
Bay or brown 1977
Proudest Roman
Spanked
1968
1971
20-b
23-b
Royal Design
Grey 1987
Jon George
Grey 1974
Comedy Star
Romany Rose
1968
1959
23>
1-h
Queen of Gormley
Brown 1981
Earl of Gormley
Natural Miss
1975
1970
13-c
14>
 Ancestor duplications:Hail to Reason4m x 5m Northern Dancer5f x 4m


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At least he's going a heap better than the pin up boy for quite a few around here, ie Dalakhani.
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This guy starts his career on Monday, Typically he is already gelded.

NOBLE FALLS (AUS)Bay gelding 2014 
Americain
Bay or brown 2005
Dynaformer
Bay or brown 1985
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Andover Way
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
On the Trail
Bay 1964
Olympia
Golden Trail
1946
1958
4-p
4-r
America
Chestnut 1997
Arazi
Chestnut 1989
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Danseur Fabuleux
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fabuleux Jane
1961
1974
2-d
7>
Green Rosy
Bay or brown 1984
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Round the Rosie
Bay 1973
Cornish Prince
Rosayya
1962
1952
1-s
1-n
Ballet Score
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Puzzled Look
Bay 1992
Gulch
Bay 1984
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Jameela
Bay or brown 1976
Rambunctious
Asbury Mary
1960
1969
19>
A4
Wedding Picture
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Strike a Pose
Grey 1971
Iron Ruler
Take a Stand
1965
1966
3-l
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 Ancestor duplications:Hail to Reason4m x 5m Blushing Groom4m x 4f Northern Dancer5f x 3m


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The dam has had 9 foals before this one.  Between them they've won 8 minor country races from 164 starts and about four-bob in prizemoney.  Any help this one can get would be very welcome.

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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

The dam has had 9 foals before this one.  Between them they've won 8 minor country races from 164 starts and about four-bob in prizemoney.  Any help this one can get would be very welcome.


We ALL know gelding them does not make them faster.




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We can almost be certain the first two colts from this mare will be gelded before they get a chance to marure.

Regimental Dance (AUS) 2005
 Life Number: AUS00898913bay mareDate of Birth: 04/08/2005 
 Microchip Number: 985100010834513DNA Typed: Y 
 by General Nediym (AUS) 1994Contact: M H C Breeding, Vic 
 from Ballet Score (IRE) 1998 
 bred by Swettenham Stud, SA 
Australian Breeding Record
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201809/11/2017Swear (AUS)Pending Certification of Paternity certification of paternity being submitted by the Stallion Proprietor">
201702/11/2016Master Of Design (AUS)Pending Certification of Paternity certification of paternity being submitted by the Stallion Proprietor">
201609/10bcolt05/11/2015Fiorente (IRE)ID kit sent May 2018
201513/10b or brcolt20/10/2014Fiorente (IRE)parentage verified


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