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Sir Gov...     I have a great cure to stop you biting your fingernails ,while you stew until Cup time .

You save on Sorbent too.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Sir Gov...     I have a great cure to stop you biting your fingernails ,while you stew until Cup time .

You save on Sorbent too.

biting fingernails gives you worms..lol...happily take a 1kg penalty :) 
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Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Sir Gov...     I have a great cure to stop you biting your fingernails ,while you stew until Cup time .

You save on Sorbent too.


biting fingernails gives you worms..lol...happily take a 1kg penalty :) 


Trade at least some of it out on Betfair ( $8 ) ATM.

        Money for Jam.     
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Good advice. 
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My 101s ew is with the TAB

so unlike Gov no trading for me.

I hear ya Gov will be a tense fortnight hoping she

a) goes to Caulfield cup
b) get into the field
c) no injuries
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Going to Cup mate if gets in.

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Originally posted by room for a slew room for a slew wrote:

My 101s ew is with the TAB

so unlike Gov no trading for me.

I hear ya Gov will be a tense fortnight hoping she

a) goes to Caulfield cup
b) get into the field
c) no injuries
d) draws well


It doesn't matter where you backed it, if you have a Betfair account you can lay it at the greatly reduced odds, to get effectively a 12/1 guaranteed win, but it is your call as to the advisability of that, you certainly aren't in line for a big collect cashing out now.
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Goodluck Gov ...... love seeing ppl stick with horses !!

To many flipflop around here .....  



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Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

Going to Cup mate if gets in.



Well done Gov, patience is a virtue.

Has always threatened to take the next step and go to to the top level and today she did.

The cream always rises to the top (Zabeel).
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Cheers Max

Did befair for a bit but got too time consuming and did my head in.

Not that on the ball to take full advantage of its benefits etc.

Will let her ride and just hope weiry puts her in the race.

He stated in an interview early September the Caulfield Cup was her aim this prep here's hoping he sticks to that.



Hope u won the half a new house as well on her.

good punting mate!

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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

Wait gov,you aren't David Gately, are you?

He has a serious thing for this mare!

Just wondering why she will win today? I myself can not see it, but I am open to being convinced!  


Sometimes you have to put your ratings aside voyager, and " sniff" one out , hope you had a little on.
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Well done, Gov!

On at $61 in the Caulfield Cup and hoping she gets in. I took the $61 months ago and they bet $101 the other week Cry.
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Originally posted by room for a slew room for a slew wrote:

My 101s ew is with the TAB

so unlike Gov no trading for me.

I hear ya Gov will be a tense fortnight hoping she

a) goes to Caulfield cup
b) get into the field
c) no injuries
d) draws well



Open a Betfair account....   Great profit awaits you.   Good work.
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Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Well done, Gov!

On at $61 in the Caulfield Cup and hoping she gets in. I took the $61 months ago and they bet $101 the other week Cry.


Good one .. You can trade some too at those prices.   Probably CC fav now.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Well done, Gov!

On at $61 in the Caulfield Cup and hoping she gets in. I took the $61 months ago and they bet $101 the other week Cry.


Good one .. You can trade some too at those prices.   Probably CC fav now.
You must be kidding.
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Originally posted by Lexawin Lexawin wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Well done, Gov!

On at $61 in the Caulfield Cup and hoping she gets in. I took the $61 months ago and they bet $101 the other week Cry.


Good one .. You can trade some too at those prices.   Probably CC fav now.

You must be kidding.


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Unfortunately won't get a start in the C. Cup
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Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

Unfortunately won't get a start in the C. Cup

Most previous winners of the Bart Cummings Stakes have got a 1kg penalty for both Cups - eg: ALMANDIN last year & DOLPHIN JO a few years before that.

Perhaps she'll get the same 1kg penalty??

There's quite a few above her in the order of entry that will drop out - eg Gingernuts, Tavago, Egg Tart, Hardham.....question marks over Almandin and Hartnell lining up in the CC too.

So with a weight penalty....she may squeeze in.
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Suspect that they want more of the internationals to run than the locals. Bet she doesn't get a penalty despite running pretty much the same times as Almandin last year.

They love the internationals........
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Wow, what a joke.
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Mystified and farkin gelatied off about hearing she wont make the field after Saturdays win.

There are at least 15-20 horses ahead of her that won't or shouldn't be going.

I bet lyold will accept all of his and then scratch on race day just to be a turd as well
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Race 7 - 4:30PM The Bart Cummings (2500 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distributionGroup 3
Quality, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 3 Time: 2:37.69 Last 600m: 0:36.83 Timing Method: Electronic

ColorFinishNoHorseTrainerJockeyMarginBar.WeightPenaltyStarting Price
14AMELIE'S STARDarren WeirDamian Lane254.5kg$4.60
213GRANDDUKEOFTUSCANYRobert HickmottMichael Dee2L154kg$91
310KELLSTORMDarren WeirBen Allen (a)2.1L554kg$51
41ALMANDINRobert HickmottDamien Oliver3.35L960kg$2.20
53HARLEMDavid & B Hayes & T DabernigDwayne Dunn3.85L1056.5kg$4.40
62TALLYJames CummingsHugh Bowman4.85L357.5kg$11
611YOGIDarren WeirDean Yendall4.85L654kg$20
88VENGEUR MASQUEMichael MoroneyPatrick Moloney4.95L754kg$26
97PENTATHLONJohn WheelerJye McNeil7.95L454kg$101
106KINEMAChris WallerCraig Newitt42.95L854kg$71


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Do people have actual word from Carpenter that she has not been penalised ?

Her rating has gone from 103 to 106. 


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Granddukeoftuscanny  74 to 84
Kellstorm 86
Almandin 112 Has 56.5 in Caulfield Cup
Harlem 103  has 51.5 in Caulfield Cup
Yogi 84
Tally 105 Has 54 in Caulfield Cup
Vengeur Masque 90
Pentathlon 93



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142212x6813HUMIDOR (NZ)G5Darren Weir156kg3
25P31111x11BONNEVAL (NZ)M4Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman252.5kg3.5
337710x2476TALLYG5James Cummings354kg5
484x386x515HARLEM (GB)H6David & B Hayes & T Dabernig451.5kg0.5kg7.5
53x2822x122HARTNELL (GB)G7James Cummings558kg1
64011115x51GINGERNUTS (NZ)G4Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards655kg2.5
7665111x214ALMANDIN (GER)G8Robert Hickmott756.5kg2.5
8337311x681JON SNOW (NZ)H4Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman854.5kg3
939x260x34xADMIRE DEUS (JPN)H7Darren Weir956kg3
1081x37x0143GAILO CHOP (FR)G7Darren Weir1055.5kg3.5
1112x3361x88SENSE OF OCCASIONG7Kris Lees1155.5kg3.5
12x00x518x79TAVAGO (NZ)G5Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young1255kg4
133x5126x696INFERENCEH4Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes1353.5kg4
141232x1521xMARMELO (GB)H5Hughie Morrison1455kg4
1531x11111x2EGG TARTM4Chris Waller1551.5kg4.5
16312612x054SINGLE GAZEM5Nick Olive1653kg4.5
171x3x45712xJOHANNES VERMEER (IRE)H5Aidan O'Brien1754.5kg4.5
180x6713x712HARDHAMH4David Brideoake1852.5kg5
1910x8142444WICKLOW BRAVE (GB)G9William Mullins1954kg5
200x46x11x8xFRANCIS OF ASSISI (IRE)G8Charlie Appleby2054kg5
21211x12x9L5STAR EXHIBITG6Darren Weir21=54kg5
221121x5x762VENTURA STORM (IRE)H5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig21=54kg5
230x8747x468HE’S OUR ROKKII (NZ)G5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig2354kg5
244407x5x865SIR ISAAC NEWTON (GB)G6Robert Hickmott2454kg5
255x2111x080MONTOYA’S SECRETM4Leon & Troy Corstens2550.5kg5.5
2621113x5502BIG DUKE (IRE)G6Darren Weir26=53.5kg5.5
2746557x135xCALDERON (IRE)H5Tony McEvoy26=53.5kg5.5
286321220x09SAVILE ROW (NZ)H4Michael Moroney2851.5kg6
291x8400x725ABBEY MARIEM5Michael Kent2951.5kg6
30x37301x373CHOCANTE (NZ)G5Stephen Marsh30=53kg6
316151021x76LIZZIE L’AMOUR (NZ)M5Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman30=51.5kg6
32x031x270x0GALLANTE (IRE)G7Robert Hickmott32=53kg6
3311x6248x2xWALL OF FIRE (IRE)H5Hugo Palmer32=53kg6
34x212411x13STAMPEDEH5Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott3453kg6
354214x83941AMELIE’S STARM6Darren Weir3551kg6.5


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Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

Suspect that they want more of the internationals to run than the locals. Bet she doesn't get a penalty despite running pretty much the same times as Almandin last year.

They love the internationals........


Wonder how Foundery received 1kg penalty for winning a terribly weak Metrop. his first win in 3 years?...makes you think wtf.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

Suspect that they want more of the internationals to run than the locals. Bet she doesn't get a penalty despite running pretty much the same times as Almandin last year.

They love the internationals........


Wonder how Foundery received 1kg penalty for winning a terribly weak Metrop. his first win in 3 years?...makes you think wtf.

Foundry went from 50 to 51 kgs and is virtually no chance of making the field.

The horse he conquered Big Duke has 53.5 dropping 1.5 kgs from the Metrop 2 kgs difference for a 0.5 length defeat.

Foundry 104 and Big Duke 106 would have 1 kgs between them the next time they meet in a handicap other than CC and MC.

Foundry's penalty is easy to see. Amelie's Star is a little more difficult.

As a mare she gets a 2 kg allowance and already being on 51 her win on Saturday should see her rise in the order without any penalty.




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He does not explain why she was not penalised for the Caulfield Cup.

No penalty for Amelie's Star after The Bart Cummings win

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Racing Victoria (RV) Executive General Manager – Racing, Greg Carpenter, has announced that Amelie’s Star will not be re-handicapped in the BMW Caulfield Cup (2400m) and Emirates Melbourne Cup (3200m) for her win in The Bart Cummings (2500m) at Flemington on Saturday.

The Darren Weir-trained mare will remain on 51kg in both races after her Group 3 victory over outsiders Granddukeoftuscany, who is not entered for the Cups, and stablemate Kellstorm.

Amelie’s Star is guaranteed a start in the Melbourne Cup having secured a ballot exemption with her win in The Bart Cummings, but she remains at number 35 in the Caulfield Cup Order of Entry ahead of second acceptances for the 21 October feature on Tuesday.

Carpenter said Amelie’s Star – who will carry the same weight in the Melbourne Cup as Almandin did last year -  was strong at the end of a truly run 2500m Bart Cummings in beating Granddukeoftuscany (Rated 74) and Kellstorm (86).

“Amelie’s Star’s Melbourne Cup weight will be 51kg, the same weight Almandin was given after he won the Bart Cummings in 2016 before going on to win the Melbourne Cup,” Carpenter said.

“Amelie’s Star will meet Almandin on the same weight terms in the Melbourne Cup as she did on Saturday (5.5kg less) and is 1.5kg worse off against Harlem.”

This is the third year that The Bart Cummings has offered the winner a guaranteed start in the Melbourne Cup with Lets Make Adeal (2015) and Almandin (2016) both on the Cup’s limit weight of 50kg prior to their victory.

Let’s Make Adeal was penalised 0.5kg to 50.5kg but was unable to take her place in the Cup due to injury. Almandin was penalised 1kg rising to 51kg for the Cup before ultimately carrying 52kg when weights were raised 1kg at acceptance time.

Since 2000, five winners of The Bart Cummings have contested the Melbourne Cup with Brew (2000) and Almandin (2016) completing the double, while Who Shot The barman finished third in the 2014 Cup. Dolphin Jo (2007) and Harris Tweed (2010) both filled fifth placing.

In finishing third in The Bart Cummings, imported galloper Kellstorm passed the ballot for the Caulfield and Melbourne Cups moving to 53rd position in the Order of Entry at Caulfield and to 81st for the Melbourne Cup.

New Orders of Entry will be released tomorrow afternoon following the 12 noon closure of second acceptances for the Caulfield Cup and first acceptances for the Melbourne Cup.

Meanwhile, the first heat of the Melbourne Cup Carnival Country Series was run at Murtoa on Saturday, with both I Am The Dark (1st) and Hero Master (2nd) advancing to the $200,000 Melbourne Cup Carnival Country Series Final at Flemington on Oaks Day on Thursday, 9 November.

The next two heats, of which there are eight, will be run at Ballarat on Thursday and Cranbourne on Friday night with nominations closing for both races at noon today.


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The mare's allowance I forgot about.
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The other mares in the race.

Single Gaze 53....................108
Benneval 52.5.....................112
Abbey Marie 51.5.................102
Lizzie L'Amour 51.5..............105
Amelie's Star 51...................106
Montoyas Secret 50.5..........97


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