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Do the Chinese pay your bills, PT ?
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Try to keep up PT.

You know what happened as well as the next person. And he did it in the time when he was supposed to be in the naughty corner.

If Turnbull were to hold talks with Putin and tell him to leave his phone outside because he was under surveillance you would be screaming for his head.
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I can't imagine a 'battler' struggling to pay their bills, thinks much of a well-paid germ wanting others to pay his bills, even if there was no quid pro quo involved.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Do the Chinese pay your bills, PT ?

I wish they would, they pay the LNP and Labor Party's bills, so why not mine?
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Two wrongs don't make a right though, as ever.
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Try to keep up PT.

You know what happened as well as the next person. And he did it in the time when he was supposed to be in the naughty corner.

If Turnbull were to hold talks with Putin and tell him to leave his phone outside because he was under surveillance you would be screaming for his head.

I know what happened a year ago, he admitted talking against Labor Party policy in relation to Chinese Islands last year, but what is new in this tape confirming what he said, and why does it matter when Abbott wanders all over the world making speeches to RWNJs  in direct contradiction of Liberal Party policy?

Dont know about talks but according to the Panama papers they have shifty tax dodging accounts in the same Cayman Islands banksEmbarrassed


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

What has he actually been caught doing?


ask bill. he just rissoled him and made the little grub cry.

gawd your obfuscation and cover up knows no bounds. as stayer said...its great you post news articles, the problem is when you opine about them.

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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Two wrongs don't make a right though, as ever.


isnt it funny watching pt flip his own rules here...

its the equivalent of pt going after hilary instead of trump.
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Don't worry, When Bill becomes PM, it probably won't be long till......

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Come around and talk a while
I need your smile, you need a shoulder
Oh Sam, Sam, you know where I am
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Try to keep up PT.

You know what happened as well as the next person. And he did it in the time when he was supposed to be in the naughty corner.

If Turnbull were to hold talks with Putin and tell him to leave his phone outside because he was under surveillance you would be screaming for his head.

I know what happened a year ago, he admitted talking against Labor Party policy in relation to Chinese Islands last year, but what is new in this tape confirming what he said, and why does it matter when Abbott wanders all over the world making speeches to RWNJs  in direct contradiction of Liberal Party policy?

Dont know about talks but according to the Panama papers they have shifty tax dodging accounts in the same Cayman Islands banksEmbarrassed



So now you're accusing Abbott of what? Espionage?
And let's not forget that as a Liberal he is allowed to voice his own opinion, just like Joyce as a National but unlike the ALP MPs who must toe the party line. 'Yes comrade, I have read the daily memo comrade'.

Fancy having a politician who voices his or her own opinion.
What in the world is happening?

But advising a chinese official (who he was visiting shortly after being displaced from the front of the senate for taking money from the chinese) to turn his phone off because he thinks they might be bugged by Australia is far removed from just talking against the party line of thought. And who knows what was said after the phones were turned off and they went behind closed doors.
He should be sacked from the ALP. Then he should be investigated by ASIO and any other Australian authority who would like to take a turn at him. And Shorten should wear much of the responsibility for this because he allowed Dastyari back as the senate whip instead of sending him to Alcatraz.
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Maybe They were trying the luxuries the YES vote has delivered.

Who wants a phone to ring when the " birdies fly ".
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You are getting soft Scamanda, I would have thought nothing short of blood eagling him would have satisfied youShocked 




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whatabout the blatant lie from shanghai sam that he lobbed the chinese billionaires house to tell him he could no longer have contact with him.

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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

whatabout the blatant lie from shanghai sam that he lobbed the chinese billionaires house to tell him he could no longer have contact with him.


A bit like the guy on parole who who goes around to see the head of the crime gangs to tell him he isn't allowed to be there?


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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

whatabout the blatant lie from shanghai sam that he lobbed the chinese billionaires house to tell him he could no longer have contact with him.



A bit like the guy on parole who who goes around to see the head of the crime gangs to tell him he isn't allowed to be there?




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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

You are getting soft Scamanda, I would have thought nothing short of blood eagling him would have satisfied youShocked 


I haven't gone soft at all. I've always been open minded and lenient to those that make mistakes. Once.
As you would know I sit right smack bang in the middle when it come to politics, a centrist to the bone.

I just dislike unions, ex-union officials, Greens, and maggots.
The heel of the boot will fix either.
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It is not as if he leased Darwin Harbour to a Chinese govt company for 99 years or anything like that is it? 

How much did Turnbull secure for the Liberal Party last week from the Chinese businessman last week?

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People who always "go in to bat" for one side of the political divide, just make themselves look silly, we know why those "in-house" do it, but if you are just a spectator, ridiculous. Anyone with a few functioning brain cells knows both sides are riddled with dodgy types, and never more so than today, imo. Opportunists galore.
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The govt yesterday claimed that Dastyari, based on intelligence, had told a Chinese citizen to leave his phone inside because their phones may have been bugged. 

By making that suggestion public, were they warning people potentially under surveillance everywhere that their phones could be bugged as well, and to be careful?


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The govt yesterday claimed that Dastyari, based on intelligence, had told a Chinese citizen to leave his phone inside because their phones may have been bugged. 

By making that suggestion public, were they warning people potentially under surveillance everywhere that their phones could be bugged as well, and to be careful?



I suspect most miscreants realise that phone taps have been around a very long time, but you are talking about something more than that ?
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The govt yesterday claimed that Dastyari, based on intelligence, had told a Chinese citizen to leave his phone inside because their phones may have been bugged. 

By making that suggestion public, were they warning people potentially under surveillance everywhere that their phones could be bugged as well, and to be careful?



I suspect most miscreants realise that phone taps have been around a very long time, but you are talking about something more than that ?

Not so many people are aware of the remote surveillance capabilities of mobile phones, tablets or even car computer systems. Any that didn't should know after yesterday. The implication that Dastyari alerted the Chinese person is that it wouldn't already be known to him

Is that act yesterday a breach of security, similar to the idiot Trump's  gaffes re Israel?
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I doubt anyone in intelligence circles would be ignorant of the possibilities. Beyond my ken to understand the intricacies of the subject.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I doubt anyone in intelligence circles would be ignorant of the possibilities. Beyond my ken to understand the intricacies of the subject.

Then why would Dastyari need to warn him?
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I left the Sam building when it was revealed he was asking the Chinese to pay his bills, I won't be back.
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Next week will be interesting in parliament. That is if Turnbull doesn't take another week off to avoid these questions as well as questions on his ''setting up'' the Royal Commission with the banks, only after a dozen of his back benchers turned on him and threatened to jump ship this week
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Malcolm looking like the weakest PM since.......take your pick. I don't know.
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His Prime Ministership is terminal and not even a Lazarus triple bypass can save him.
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No depth in the field, is keeping him there.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Naturally he can't be expelled from parliament, unless convicted of something. But it appears he was an "asset" to the govt, and they had more dirt on him kept in reserve for future use.

I recall seeing footage of that speech at the time that it happened and what he said wasn't any secret! 

... Shorten has known all along exactly what he said, and that he had lied about it, and was relying on the ABC too keep it in the archives ... and so too did the Liberal strategists ... I agree with you max, he was always on borrowed time, Libs were just waiting to play their ace in the hole. 

... and then today, the LNP slam dunked it with the w**king Woyal Commission (or what ever bullgelati name they give this, the 100th Banking Inquiry in recent times, is it?)!

Won't be enough to save Turncoat, but it may save the government!

The only way Malcolm could possibly save his own skin is if he were to throw the book at Shanghai Sam, lock him up for Treason, and put Bullgelati Bill in the cell next door for conspiracy and collusion.

... and the soft cock would never do that Dead


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