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How does that make it a success jacko1?  Our top 1600m events don't start till next week and that one is against Winx so most would of preferred to run yesterday for $5,000,000 to going up against her in a G1 next week.  Some will use it as a lead up to races like the Doncaster some will still go through the George Ryder.
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I think Carpenter is losing his marbles
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Asked if he would love to see his pair have another crack at Mystic Journey, Cummings said: “We’ll just let the dust settle.”

“Look at the first to sixth (finishing positions), and it is a serious race. If you got that result in the Doncaster, you would be saying that’s the best Doncaster of all-time, just about.”

Hartnell will head towards the Doncaster on April 6, while Cummings is less certain on the plans for Alizee.


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Just had another watch of the race. You reckon the caller had a couple of bucks on Alizee
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He got excited didn't he!
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Ultimately, the race was an interesting affair. 

A success? well yes and no. 

Yes from the viewpoint it had people interested, talking, involved and the top end of the field was really good, albeit few in numbers.

No from the viewpoint of the prizemoney involved was massively excessive and the tail was long.

How to improve on the concept?

1. Reduce the public voting numbers of those that get in via this avenue to say 6. This will condense the voting on the "good" horses to maybe a few, so they will get more votes as a result, I know I was one trying to vote for the 10th voting ordered entry...ps... It didn't work!!!

2. Do not pay prizemoney down to last place, maybe... have runners nominate an approved charity, and those from say 11th through to 14th will have money allocated to that charity. Therefore there is a risk for connections for stupid voting, on non-competitve horses....

3. Increase the benchmark to 80+ or even 90+.


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Originally posted by pnclick pnclick wrote:

Ultimately, the race was an interesting affair. 

A success? well yes and no. 

Yes from the viewpoint it had people interested, talking, involved and the top end of the field was really good, albeit few in numbers.

No from the viewpoint of the prizemoney involved was massively excessive and the tail was long.

How to improve on the concept?

1. Reduce the public voting numbers of those that get in via this avenue to say 6. This will condense the voting on the "good" horses to maybe a few, so they will get more votes as a result, I know I was one trying to vote for the 10th voting ordered entry...ps... It didn't work!!!

2. Do not pay prizemoney down to last place, maybe... have runners nominate an approved charity, and those from say 11th through to 14th will have money allocated to that charity. Therefore there is a risk for connections for stupid voting, on non-competitve horses....

3. Increase the benchmark to 80+ or even 90+.




I agree with your points pnclick, but I would change some other things.

The voting should be done in a smilar way to the Kosciusko in NSW. It should be done through the VRC, where the voters get a number, which is put into a draw and if your number is selected there is a manual draw at the VRC, where you get a runners number, which is then your chance to win the $250,000.

I do not know how this worked, but the guy who won the $250,000 did not actually select Mystic Journey, he voted for Moss N Dale. This part of the voting to me seemed non-transparent.

To make it a relevant race, you need to entice overseas runners. If the VRC were to change the voting, this would allow overseas voters to vote for an overseas horse. The race last week should have had Melody Belle in it NZ's best horse, but because she was only going to get in via a wildcard, the connections knocked it back due to traveling arrrangements.

Japan, Hong Kong and New Zeland runners would make this a mini Pacific Mile championship.

But the VRC look like they are on to th changes required!

Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Balfs Choice ran a cracking race.

90 rater challenging group horses, excellent effort!
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

What a good concept.

Needs a little refining but loved the build up and the race.

You can't beat racing at Flemington so much better than the Everest.

Sydney racing will never have what Melbourne has, history.

I don’t get this d1ck measuring contest about nsw v vic.

But if you want to play, on a perfect day for racing, when the vrc opened up the members to pretty much every other racing club, and were offering 1/2 price tickets for the day.
What was the crowd?
What was betting turnover?
No freebies on Everest day, where they actually placed a premium to entry fees,and where turnover was setting records.

Where was the best horse in the land today?
No interest in the event.
What did winners have to say about the race?
Not as good as winning the guineas...


It has nothing to do with appendages.

Victoria is the racing capital of Australia.

Melbourne Cup, Cox Plate, Caulfield Cup.....go figure.

I am surprised, loved the race.

David v Goliath what a brilliant concept.
Maybe they can play around with the weights a bit but they have a lot to work with.
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The whole concept sucks!! 5mill up for grabs! And the put hazards in the way of good horses!! Like they are trying to trip up the good ones. I cannot see how anyone could entertain the mediocrity of the concept. But I'm only one person with one opinion. The chiefs at RVL got well paid to think of that idea.
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Shame you clearly didn’t even watch the race.
Hint: the “Davids”went so well,one of the proposed changes is not to pay down to last ever again.......

The other is to reduce the number of “David’s” in the race....
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