All Star Mile Vic Autumn

pnclick wrote:

Formerly Kincsem wrote:

Does not sit comfortably that The Autumn Sun's connections are publicly confirming they intend to dodge Winx. I find it absolutely pathetic and particularly when they state they wouldn't want to beat her like they think they have a live chance. Personally I wouldn't support the horse at stud out of principle and the fact I think Redoubt's are pea-hearted just like the owners.

Harsh, yes. But imagine if Northerly was campaigned around Sunline. What a build-up if they both ran, would be great for racing.

Sounds a bit like SEPOY actively dodging BLACK CAVIAR. It was indicated early on he would not take her on and look for other races, trying to protect stud value.

Personally, I think Group 1 races should be heavily cut back to encourage the best to race the best. And even change the prizemoney structure of these races so they are not so heavily geared to the winner. The issue you have at the moment is why race for 2nd against WINX in say the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes, when 2nd prizemoney is less than winning most normal races.

Keep yourself in the best company and your horses in the worst. Makes sense to me if people want to target races they can win and avoid those they can't.

Ole Buff never dodged anything. But he was a gelding I suppose. If you’ve got a well bred youngster, steer him into one of the plethora of substandard G1 races in the country and Hey Presto. Hopefully then one of his babies can do the same. Rinse, repeat.

Even heard some leading trainers around refer to (market themselves) as “stallion makers”. And in the meantime, our horses are getting worse.

TJMitchell wrote:

Why would anyone in there right mind send an expensive colt around to run 2nd, 2nd, 2nd when you could go 1st, 1st, 1st in other G1 races

Does running second to Black Caviar as opposed to beating a far lesser horse make him better? Likely to be a better stallion? To rich morons, probably yes.

By not racing Winx they could always fan the flames of speculation that he could have beaten her.

Took me an hour to find this

The search function here is dreadful

Voting now open at Allstarmile.com.au

10.30am update. Looks like a lot of votes already cast. Open for a month. 1 vote per person.

TOP 10 ALL-STARS LEADERBOARD
Horse & # Votes
1     Man of His Word 219
2     Urban Ruler     181
3     The Autumn Sun 160
4     Amphitrite 145
5     Mr Money Bags 137
6     Foundry     121
7     Grunt     95
8     Hellova Street     93
9     Land of Plenty     80
10     Alizee 74

Thanks Gay3

Gay3 wrote:

Originally posted by Hartnell is dominant

Hartnell is dominant wrote:

Took me an hour to find this

The search function here is dreadful

Voting now open at Allstarmile.com.au

I'll change it to All Star Mile & there's nothing wrong with the search as long as you use Advanced, change Message to Topic and know what word to look for LOL

Some titles defy all logic Confused

If the top 10 remain the same then you may have to change it again and drop Star from the title.

He is doubtful according to Sportsbet.

Hartnell is dominant wrote:

Hope it’s okay if I keep positing the leaderboard, let me know if you want me to stop.
Will update every few days, just doing it semi regular today because it’s day 1

1     Urban Ruler          1054
2     Man of His Word     488
3     The Autumn Sun     451
4     Amphitrite          425
5     Mr Money Bags     397
6     Moss 'n' Dale          351
7     Foundry                  308
8     Grunt                  265
9     Land of Plenty          241
10     Violate                  241

Thanks, it's handy, the site is blocked outside of Australia so I can't check myself.

The Autumn Sun will start at money back against that lot.

Afros wrote:

The Autumn Sun will start at money back against that lot.

They add four wild cards to the race two weeks before so he may get some competition in the form of that.

Hartnell is dominant wrote:

5.30pm update

TOP 10 ALL-STARS LEADERBOARD
Horse          # Votes
1     Urban Ruler          1400
2     The Autumn Sun     625
3     Man of His Word     552
4     Moss 'n' Dale          465
5     Amphitrite          456
6     Mr Money Bags     382
7     Grunt                  339
8     Penny to Sell          315
9     Foundry                  311
10     Material Man          304

Most of this top 10's votes have actually dropped since you posted this.

They have been fluctuating a lot the last 2 hours or so.

M

Hartnell is dominant wrote:

Hope it’s okay if I keep positing the leaderboard, let me know if you want me to stop.
Will update every few days, just doing it semi regular today because it’s day 1

1     Urban Ruler          1054
2     Man of His Word     488
3     The Autumn Sun     451
4     Amphitrite          425
5     Mr Money Bags     397
6     Moss 'n' Dale          351
7     Foundry                  308
8     Grunt                  265
9     Land of Plenty          241
10     Violate                  241

Maybe Tilyras who owns Mr M can enlighten us as to what’s going on with 5hese very bizarre numbers