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A little too quick ?

I would say about 20-30 lengths too quick.
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This horse is not ready for a derby
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Originally posted by tillyras tillyras wrote:

A little disappointing today imo.
I think the Derby is a little too quick for him, if he were mine. He’d Ben into the paddock and be brought back the autumn derbies


It is an interesting one. If he goes home and eats up and has taken no harm from the run he should push on, maybe something a little below Derby standard.

What is there for 3yos over 2400m just below Derby standard around that time ?





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Could go to the Geelong Classic maybe?
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I thought it was a nice enough effort from a Derby perspective.  He's not bred to be doing much over 1600m or less and given his size a bigger track would seem a big plus.
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Didn’t think it was that bad. Looked to be jogging on the turn but couldn’t quicken as well as the others. Obviously needs further. Derby? Doubt it but who knows.
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Sandown Guineas could be a spring aim?
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Sandown Guineas could be a spring aim?


Is that now 2400m ?




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Sandown Guineas could be a spring aim?


Is that now 2400m ?


No.
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He is nominated for a Class 1 over 1600m at Ballarat on Wednesday, although that was probably just a safeguard in case he didn’t run at Benalla.

If he’s come out of the Friday’s run ok, there’s plenty of options open to connections over the next month or so.

The Hill Smith Stakes over 1800m at Morphettville would be a perfect test of whether it’s worthwhile to keep going the VRC Derby path or just pick out some BM races.
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Race 9, 2025 BM64 at Cranbourne today.
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That was decent. Where does he go for next? The Vase on Cox Plate day? Definitely wants a trip that’s for sure.
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Geelong Derby trial. 




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And wins.  Robbie would prefer the Derby to be a week later than it is.
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Does he really need to run in the Derby Tiral ?

Ben Thompson is saying just now how good he is and how clean winded he is.






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I’d go straight into the derby but query on whether he’d get a run
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4 kgs today nearly guarantees him a run.

Mind you there's every chance the Derby won't have a full field.
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

I’d go straight into the derby but query on whether he’d get a run



I don’t see why he wouldn’t get a run. He was rated 62 before today. Will be several points higher now. The lowest rated horse in the capacity field last year was rated 58.
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it is fair to say we have stumbled across the new king here, forget waller being scared to race TAS against winx in the cox plate, what truly keeps him up at night is what Alessandro would do to TAS in the derby.
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This will sound odd but when he Gallop’s he reminds me of Manikato
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I guess you’re right. We will just have to wait and see.
But I don’t think he needs another run in the meantime.
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He'll get into a Derby for sure. BM67 now. Maidens make the field.

Big lump of a lad too. Like his sire, would relish the Flemington Straight. 
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Drawn the extreme outside in the Derby trial at Geelong on Wednesday.
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If he runs it will cook him.
Save him for the derby
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$13. WINS.
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barrier 20 - geeeeees!
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Scratched.
Straight to the derby or a setback?
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Robbie on twitter says he will go straight to the derby
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Today would’ve been a waste of time.
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Robbie on twitter says he will go straight to the derby




Where was this tweet? Sorry, I’be probably glossed right over it.
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