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    Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 12:03pm
Hi guys,

She'll probably be racing on a little longer, but keen to get any opinions on a stallion for my girl Storm Siren... big girl (around 16.3hh). Currently has two placings and another couple of fourths in Sydney, has won three at provincial/country level. Hoping she can get a city win or two in before we retire her.

Her breeding is Excites x De Chorus (Unbridled's Song)


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She has no duplications in the first five generations... my initial thoughts were to maybe try and reinforce either staging or cotehele house?
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Probably too close for Staging.  With the cotehele house you can always use sires with crosses to stallions that have worked with the line ie Zabeel, Danehill, Habitat or Bletchingly.  The best recent is the Centaine grandam.  Centaine has Century, Vain, Todman, Better Boy etc.  You can look for crosses of those.  Further back the line produced Beaupatir who's sire was inbred to Quiver.  That is the family of Show a Heart but he's way to big for her.  There were decent winners by Straight Strike who also crosses well with Lonhro.  Lonhro by Octagonal gives you a cross to the family of Danewin so his sons could also be looked at.

One who is totally different but look ok on paper would be Keep the Faith.  Not dear but not prolific either.  He sired Trust in a Gust so can get a good one.  Sunday Silence decends from Quiver.

Someone on here stands Fast 'n' Famous and he has Zabeel and Bletchingly blood so maybe also worth a look.
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A sire well worth consideration from a line-breeding perspective is Redente (Redoute's Choice - Stella Cadente), a non-commercial but successful sire considering his lack of opportunity.  His book doubled in 2015, reflecting his recent achievements.

 

A mating with Storm Siren would produce Danehill 3 x 3, Centaine (Century/Better Boy) 3 x 3, Bletchingly (Biscay/Star Kingdom) 4, 5 x 6, Northern Dancer 5, 6 x 6, Nijinsky 5 x 7, Relic 6, 7 x 7, Sir Gaylord 7, 7 x 7, Petition 7 x 6 and 5 strains of Natalma.

There are quite a few stallions around if you want to pursue the Eight Carat family.

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Thanks all. Aurelous, if Dalakhani is still standing over here when she is retired, and still at a fee that we can pay, will definitely try.

Furious, would Toorak Toff be an option if Show A Heart isn't? Note that he has both Bletchingly and Habitat in his pedigree,

Second Chance will keep Redente in mind for when we breed one to keep... not a massive fan of duplicating Danehill close but if I was going to do it going through a son of Redoute's would be the way...
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Well you have time on your side to see it Toorak has what it takes.  I haven't liked all the types he throws but he was a big horse also and they take time.  I hope he can make it but at the moment he's probably too dear.
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I'd go for Hussonet or Reset if she was mine.
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For mine the SA based stallion Host provides some really important duplications especially between the 7th and 12th removes. The relationship between his dam (Colonna Traiana) and Storm Siren is quite substantial. That's were I would send her if she was mine. Good Luck!
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So for her maiden year, after some improvements in the family with her half-sister Siren's Fury picking up 2x blacktype placings and half-brother Hot King Prawn gaining a lot of notice in Hong Kong we decided to go with a proven commodity and hopefully a sire that will appeal to a lot of buyer - Star Witness. Fingers crossed we get a nice type!
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good luck storm siren
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In foal off the one serving, due mid-August. Nice to see Star Witness going on with the job with a few more group winners and almost getting the second G1 winner with Fuhryk.

Also good to see Stormy's half-brother Hot King Prawn still unbeaten in HK, going for 5 from 5 this weekend. Will be interested to see what the half by Your Song makes at the Easter Sale next year.

Exciting times Thumbs Up
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All the very best
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Not long to go now! Fingers crossed for a safe delivery and a healthy foal.. anything more a bonus! Have had her 1/2 sister Siren’s Fury pick up a G3 in the autumn, and with Hot King Prawn now rated 112 will be seeing him in blacktype races come the spring. Exciting times!

We’ve got her booked in to Churchill this season.. I’m particularly excited about this cross, there’s a lot going on that seems to work from a nicks and crosses perspective
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Unnamed  
Churchill (AUS)
Bay 2009
Shamardal
Bay 2002
Giant's Causeway
Chestnut 1997
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Terlingua
1978
1976
4-j
8-c
Mariah's Storm
Bay 1991
Rahy
Immense
1985
1979
12-c
11>
Helsinki
Bay 1993
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Coup de Folie
1970
1982
13-c
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Waterway
1976
1976
1-b
1-l
Sigaro
Bay or brown 2003
Lujain
Bay or brown 1996
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Con Game
1970
1974
13-c
5-c
Satin Flower
Bay 1988
Shadeed
Sateen
1982
1976
1-n
16-g
Rose of Latakia
Bay 1992
Conquistarose
Bay 1984
Conquistador Cielo
De la Rose
1979
1978
8-h
26>
Syrian Port
Bay 1984
Alleged
Port Damascus
1974
1971
2-s
1-p
Storm Siren (AUS)
Grey 2011
Excites
Bay 2003
Danewin
Bay 1991
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Eight Carat
1963
1975
8-j
9-c
Staging
Bay 1994
Success Express
Bay 1985
Hold Your Peace
Au Printemps
1969
1979
12-b
17-b
Cinerama
Bay 1986
Best Western
Bold Bridget
1978
1974
2-b
2-e
De Chorus
Grey 2000
Unbridled's Song
Grey 1993
Unbridled
Bay 1987
Fappiano
Gana Facil
1977
1981
16-a
1-r
Trolley Song
Grey 1983
Caro
Lucky Spell
1967
1971
3-o
4-m
Val de Grace
Brown 1987
Centaine
Brown 1980
Century
Rainbeam
1969
1973
20>
C7
Renasans
Bay 1980
Ashabit
Montana Pearl
1973
1969
31>
1-b
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Wrong Churchill mate.
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Galileo x Meow (Storm Cat)

I like the Success Express - Air Express, Storm Cat - Unbridled’s Song, Miswaki - Fappiano & Galileo - Danehill
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Unnamed  
Churchill (IRE)
Bay 2014
Galileo
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Anatevka
1967
1969
1-d
9-h
Meow
Bay 2008
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
Terlingua
Chestnut 1976
Secretariat
Crimson Saint
1970
1969
2-s
8-c
Airwave
Bay 2000
Air Express
Bay 1994
Salse
Ibtisamm
1985
1981
16-g
17-b
Kangra Valley
Chestnut 1991
Indian Ridge
Thorner Lane
1985
1985
3-e
19-a
Storm Siren (AUS)
Grey 2011
Excites
Bay 2003
Danewin
Bay 1991
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Eight Carat
1963
1975
8-j
9-c
Staging
Bay 1994
Success Express
Bay 1985
Hold Your Peace
Au Printemps
1969
1979
12-b
17-b
Cinerama
Bay 1986
Best Western
Bold Bridget
1978
1974
2-b
2-e
De Chorus
Grey 2000
Unbridled's Song
Grey 1993
Unbridled
Bay 1987
Fappiano
Gana Facil
1977
1981
16-a
1-r
Trolley Song
Grey 1983
Caro
Lucky Spell
1967
1971
3-o
4-m
Val de Grace
Brown 1987
Centaine
Brown 1980
Century
Rainbeam
1969
1973
20>
C7
Renasans
Bay 1980
Ashabit
Montana Pearl
1973
1969
31>
1-b
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Gay, when I click on the “Click image to enlarge” I get some images of some vastly different bellies.
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