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Sunline
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Bonfield
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I have them rating very similar last starts, with Brave Song marginally higher. It will come down to which improves the most. Both bred to go over ground.
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Just could not get away from them over the short trip.
Looks a exciting front running middle distance prospect. |
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SkyDancer
Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Cranbourne Status: Offline Points: 8428 |
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Overrated flop of the highest order
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ThatGuy
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Will be giving it another chance. Having had opportunity to interrogate Shogun Sun's last start, perhaps that horse could be half decent.
No leaders won on the day and the fence was off (definitely later in the day). Once leaders got caught in the straight you saw them fold up very easily the rest of the day so I will give credit to Addictive Nature for sticking on.
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Carioca
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Promising but that's where it is at the moment imo, if the 3 rd horse doesn't drift of the fence ( Solar Impact) the winner has to go over heels and makes the finish interesting, don't know about the winner but of the other two at this stage Solar Impact impresses me the most, loved the way he rallied when the winner got through, hope GM doesn't get trigger happy and go for the blinkers, imo may fire him up too much and over do it.
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Carioca
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Fastest split of the day, 35-34 overall 1-11-72 Missile. 36-22 overall. 1-11-82, after track upgrade S7 to S6 . |
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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I'll sit on the fence with Addictive Nature and Brave Song for now. Wait for news from the stables, if we get any.
A N kicked on well but was there to win and just folded when it got tough. And I doubt the opposition was any better than what's been served up in recent weeks. B S's run was just too bad to be true so I'm suspecting something amiss there. Or just hoping.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Baker wasn't disappointed, likely to push onto the Ming Dynasty.
Snowden said Brave Song is immature and off for a spell. Possibly didn't handle soft.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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3blindmice
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The sectionals for the day suggested they ought not be disappointed.
Only the Sangiovese race clocked a faster L600 and Shogun Sun clocked ~0.3 seconds faster than any other horse for the last 400m (Sangiovese) and nearly 0.4sec faster last 200m. SS, Addictive Nature and Solar Patch ran the three quickest L200s for the day, albeit with the use of a fresh track. |
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djebel
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A listed winner at his 3rd start. |
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18699 |
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Can' t say he is a flop, but if you asked me which horse I wanted to take home from yesterdays race then Assimilate is the one, even considering his racing pattern of getting back and needing luck in the run.
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Sunline
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Really tough effort from this bloke and fantastic training effort from Baker, it must be said, to resurrect him from that surprise defeat last start.
I was on the first two, and have to agree that Assimilate looked hard done by with Bowman choosing to restrain the horse 2 lengths off the second-last horse - no questions asked by stewards which is alarming. Fair enough if you want to go back to last but there is no need to be that far off the second-last horse. Irrespective, Addictive Nature did some work up top and kicked very strongly, before fighting off Assimilate late. He looks a horse of loads of promise and potential with that speed and pedigree full of stamina. With this prep under his belt, he should come back in the autumn ready to tackle G1s and I back him to be in the finish of one or two.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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djebel
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I think his trainer is going to stuff him up if he heads towards the Golden Rose.
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Sunline
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He won't and he isn't as far as I'm aware.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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djebel
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Savabeel Colt Heading for the Big Time
Mark Smith - Saturday, 26 August 2017 Striking Savabeel colt Addictive Nature may be given his chance in the $1 million Group I Golden Rose following a thoroughly game performance in Saturday's $150,000 Group III Monaco Cup-Ming Dynasty Quality (1400m) at Rosehill Gardens. Sent to the front by Tim Clark, Addictive Nature was given little peace from the Tulloch Lodge entrant Runaway. Meanwhile the undefeated Sebring colt Assimilate was meandering away a disinterested last. When Addictive Nature beat off Runaway, he came under attack from Assimilate who was charging home from the tail of the field. The Bjorn Baker-trained colt would not be denied, holding on strongly to defeat Assimilate by a short-head with Astoria (Medaglia d'Oro) a further one and three-quarter length back in third. (photos Steve Hart) "He's still doing things a bit upside down but he's got untapped potential," Baker said. "I guess for a Savabeel he has just about got too much speed, so it's a little bit of a question of what we do and where we go. "He's always shown a lot, he's a high priced yearling and he's as good a looking horse as I've ever trained or even be involved with.. 'We will have a bit of a think about things, see how he recovers. Regardless of what happens we are yet to see the best of him. He's done it all this preparation - that was his third run. He has been up for a while. 'We will just see how he comes through, there is a pretty good race in a few weeks' time (Stan Fox Stakes), there's couple of options there, we'll see."
A $775,000 purchase by Ultra Thoroughbred Racing from the Little Avondale draft at the 2016 NZB Premier Yearling Sale, Addictive Nature was the second most expensive of the 45 Savabeel yearlings at the sale. He advances his overall record to two wins and a second from three starts with earnings of $126,950. A full brother to Group II Mitchelton Wines Vase winner and Group I Champion takes third Savvy Nature, Addictive Nature is the fifth living foal of the unraced Carnegie mare Generous Nature a daughter of the Listed Quezette Stakes winner and Group I VATC Blue Diamond Stakes runner-up La Lagune (Danehill). Generous Nature has a 2yo filly by Sebring named Our Sunny Girl. She missed to Per Incanto (USA) in 2015 and was covered by the sin of Street Cry (IRE) again last spring. Addictive Nature becomes the 65thstakes winner for Waikato Stud's flagship stallion Savabeel. |
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Sunline
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No mention of Golden Rose, djebel?
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Sunline...simply supreme
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djebel
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The very first line
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Sunline
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Haha that's the journalist trying to get you to read the article. Not a single quote in that article to support the first editorial line.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Sunline
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On at $3 all-in and very keen.
Only concern is they're going to look for something to trail rather than lead. He doesn't quite have the draw to be gifted that spot, so there's a risk he's caught wide while they look at what's unfolding inside him. As long as they're assertive, so as a minimum he can still go forward and look for something to come across him, which I expect there will be looking at the speed map - or simply hold the lead again in the unlikely event it's served up to him.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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The Stallion
Champion Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 1019 |
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I'm with you on this one Sunline. One of the better bets of the day, in a race with some nice horses, I think he has them covered.
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That's the smell of victory, you can't wash that out.
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Sir Gov
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He will be top two - post race they will just say he began too good. Bit of foxing going on.
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Sunline
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May well be, Gov. Won't worry me if that plays out. As long as they don't muck it all up.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Sunline
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Got stuck into $4.5 all-in earlier this week, fully expecting him to start $3.5 or less - I'll be surprised if he doesn't jump favourite.
I cannot get Global Glamour that short off a tough run in the heat and against a sharp 3yo like Addictive Nature who has scope for big improvement here and into the rest of this prep. Otherwise it's a terrible Expressway Stakes with mostly 3yos and a good mare in Memes who no one would have ever dreamt you'd find in an Expressway Stakes when she was struggling to break her maiden. She's my save bet. Excited to see this colt back today and expect him to be winning.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Red Hare
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What's the end game for this prep? Guineas? Doncaster?
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Sunline
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Randwick Guineas.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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maccamax
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Will be the topical tip for a few of us . |
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Sunline
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Sure will.
As a sidenote, I'm far from convinced he will run a strong Randwick mile. Needs to show he relaxes this time in, and his breeding clouds everyone's perception of his ideal trip. On what we've seen to date, 1400m is his limit. Will be a query for me and vulnerable to the likes of Kaonic in the last 200m of the Randwick Guineas. Let's start with a win today and go from there!
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Sunline...simply supreme
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djebel
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Should run a mile up a mud soaked hill with ease.
Today will surely be too sharp ? |
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Sunline
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Djebel you only say that based on his pedigree. They don't run on paper. He may well be better this time in, but he didn't run out 1500m last prep, albeit at the end of his first lifetime prep which can be excused.
I only say he needs to prove it first, and it's fraught banking on his pedigree when he looks and races nothing like his pedigree.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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