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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Absolute quality. His two granddams: Savannah Success and La Lagune...top class.
If he can go on to win a nice G1 - always a big if til they do - he has the pedigree to carry on the Zabeel sireline.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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RED HUNTER
Champion Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Location: PERTH Status: Offline Points: 16334 |
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Super impressive too. |
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RED HUNTER
Champion Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Location: PERTH Status: Offline Points: 16334 |
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AL MAH HAHA.....offered at ready to run sale OCT 2016....passed at 80k,wanted 100k Gosh it was GREEN. Everyone saw it. Like to just watch it repeat it next start. Waller has a bad reputation for consistency unless (you know what) May end up in HK under the grand scheme. Glyn must have seen it. |
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RED HUNTER
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RED HUNTER
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that link sold for 60k.....just search..... AL MAHER STREET LASS .....for earlier ready to run sale in OCT 2016
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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Well, if you owned him you would want a 3YO Group 1 of any kind so that his stud value was secured. The Spring Champion Stakes looks the obvious target but he isn't in the betting for any of the Group 1s on SportsBet. I don't know about the other corporates.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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20/1 for the Golden Rose and the Guineas on CrownBet.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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horlicks
Champion Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 8407 |
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25/1 on TAB
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horlicks
Champion Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 8407 |
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That's for Golden Rose
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tillyras
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2012 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 7540 |
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Just remember, he's won a restricted 2yo race at Warwick Farm on a Wednesday in July.
I think it's a massive call to say he is the successor to Zabeel! Time will tell.
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Tilly, not really saying that. I did say if he wins a G1 and it's a big if until they do.
The main reason I'm pointing that out is, other than Reset who was never accepted by the market, and Lonhro who has done ok but but won't be remembered as a sire, Zabeel hasn't left something remotely like him and most stallions as good as him leave at least one to carry on the good work for the line. All that said I'm convinced he's a Group horse and time will tell if he's a G1 horse. I'd rather be on him than something with 2yo form from last year or the autumn on garbage tracks.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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R1 Saturday, up 100m to 1200m, drawn the rail. Runs into Brave Song and Solar Patch, two last start impressive winners.
What does everyone think?
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Sunline...simply supreme
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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I would have preferred they gave him more space between races.
His genes will take affect soon and the trainer will train all the speed out of the horse for longer journeys further down the line. #IMNSHO |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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I like the Godolphin filly
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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MK, the horse it beat (Puppet Master) was beaten a length by Al Mah Ha Ha today, who was beaten 2L by Addictive Nature the start prior.
It's not a science but AN should have the wood on her, shouldn't he?
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Al Mah Ha Ha ran today, he's getting another few days at least. I think you'll find the horse won't go deep this prep and will be in a paddock after it's third run.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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The Stallion
Champion Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 1019 |
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Black figures. Good price. Will be heavily involved.
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That's the smell of victory, you can't wash that out.
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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I was hoping for $2.5. Opened $2, and I said no thanks. Saw $2.25 so I've had half may bet on that. Hoping it eases a touch but not sure it will do of any significance.
At $2.5 he was a max bet for me. At $2.25 I'll double my bet but it won't be max bet. Heavily involved all the same, because this horse is a machine.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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maccamax
Champion Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
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I think you mentioned it broke a long standing class record on debut and the easily best final 600 of the day so has to win these lower classes on the way to a Newmarket / Melb. Cup aye .. |
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therealkramer
Champion Joined: 12 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2026 |
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I still haven't forgotten the thrashing Brave Song's sire, Your Song, dished out to a still-competitive Rain Affair on a rain affected track. So if Randwick gets the forecast rain and the track condition is downgraded, I think Brave Song can spring an upset.
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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He's the obvious fav and no reason to expect he won't have improved but so has Brave Song and, I expect, Regimen - who was going away from Puppet Master on the line at Gosford. Topweight will like any soft footing and Wild Heart was good enough last time, as was Funoon (Berry off helps). Think you'll get 6/4 and I'll be happy to look on unless BS gets out.
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Xavier
Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 3660 |
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Odds are poisonous. Should win, but no bet for me.
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Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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If the rain comes that would make Addictive Nature a sure thing. He will eat the wet and the extra stamina required to get through it. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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I doubt the track matters either way. I'm confident Addictive Nature wins. I love both horses too so I shouldn't really have a bias at play!
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Sunline...simply supreme
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therealkramer
Champion Joined: 12 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2026 |
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I think Calculated will be better over longer-think Gloaming Stakes/Spring Champion. Brave Song arguably should have beaten him first up at nearly 20-1. Addictive Nature was impressive but what did he beat? He obviously will get over ground but he can beat them on class alone when he's running in maiden company over sprint trips.
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Red Hare
Champion Joined: 12 Jan 2015 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 4233 |
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$2.40 CrownBet
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Sunline
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Didn't beat any champs but he beat Al Mah Ha Ha who did the form no harm yesterday. For me it was less about who he beat, but delivering that performance, smashing the clock, under heavy pressure from start to finish, all on debut. Big tick. Should spiral upwards with the scope for improvement.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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therealkramer
Champion Joined: 12 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2026 |
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Horses that smash the clock often struggle to reproduce that sort of effort on rain affected ground. AD has raced or trialed on nothing worse than a Slow 7. It may not matter-he may come out and put a gap in them but if we do get the rain(it hasn't arrived yet but it's looming)he's got barrier and is <6/4. That's a lay imo. |
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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Brave Song will have the last say in the straight.
Two horse race and both look bullet proof on any track but $3.50 or $4 with the PP wins me over. Especially when I get a free shot at the stumps if he runs second with the Free Bet promo.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Sunline
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Cheers all - seems most keen to take him on at the price and find a home with Brave Song. Can't know Brave Song one bit.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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