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    Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 5:29pm
Does anyone know if this inbreeding is too close? Has this type of breeeding been sucessfull? With Zabeel out of the picture now will we get more of this type of breeding and is it a good or bad thing?
I'm not sure i like it myself but.......
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In NZ since 2012, there have been 8 individual winners with inbreeding to Zabeel 4x4 or closer:

Julieta Mdn 1600m Darci Brahma x Mareva by Zabeel Zabeel 3x2

Mr Luigi Mdn 1200m Darci Brahma x Hairini by Zabeel Zabeel 3x2
Mr Luigi B65 1400m Darci Brahma x Hairini by Zabeel Zabeel 3x2
Mr Luigi B75 1600m Darci Brahma x Hairini by Zabeel Zabeel 3x2

All Decked Out 2yo 1200m Darci Brahma x Diamond Deck by Octagonal Zabeel 3x3

Adrenaline Rush Mdn 1300m Fast 'N' Famous x Oh Tee Tee by Savabeel Zabeel 3x3
Adrenaline Rush B65 1150m Fast 'N' Famous x Oh Tee Tee by Savabeel Zabeel 3x3
Adrenaline Rush B65 1200m Fast 'N' Famous x Oh Tee Tee by Savabeel Zabeel 3x3
Adrenaline Rush B75 1200m Fast 'N' Famous x Oh Tee Tee by Savabeel Zabeel 3x3

De Chine Mdn 1600m Darci Brahma x Molly Coco by Savabeel Zabeel 3x3

William Wallace Mdn 1200m Darci Brahma x Huluava by Pins Zabeel 3x3 (Granddam by Zabeel)
William Wallace B65 1200m Darci Brahma x Huluava by Pins Zabeel 3x3 (Granddam by Zabeel)

Lucky's Revenge Mdn 3yo 1200m Darci Brahma x Santangelo by Lonhro Zabeel 3x4
Lucky's Revenge B65 1200m Darci Brahma x Santangelo by Lonhro Zabeel 3x4
Lucky's Revenge B75 1200m Darci Brahma x Santangelo by Lonhro Zabeel 3x4

Dark Universe Mdn 3yo 1200m Darci Brahma x Shalaka by Lonhro Zabeel 3x4; Danzig 3x4
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All Decked Out was 2nd in the G2 Hawkes By Guineas
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More importantly, these 8 winners are from what opportunity, if someone with access to stats, could be so kind Smile
Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Nostradamus II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 6:36pm
I don't record the non-winners so no opportunity recorded however RISA provides the following.

Julieta and Mr Luigi only starters for Darci Brahma x Zabeel
All Decked Out only starter for Darci Brahma x Octagonal
Adrenaline Rush only starter for Fast 'N' Famous x Savabeel
De Chine only winner from 3 starters for Darci Brahma x Savabeel
William Wallace is one of 9 winners from 12 starters incl. 1SW for Darci Brahma x Pins. Looks like Pins is the key here.
Lucky's Revenge and Dark Universe only starters for Darci Brahma x Lonhro.

No conclusive evidence yet and more examples needed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Aussiepunta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2016 at 6:42pm
Yes but it seems there's something there.... maybe? Looks like im going to have to put my money where my mouth is and test the waters! cheers!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Aussiepunta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 10:51am
Took a share in the 3x3 Zabeel filly, Really liked the breeding.. it spoke to me... Im thinking the Ocean Parks will be talented so im hopefull this one will be ok.

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How did all this work out? Any data on the 3x3 Zabeel?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Aussiepunta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2018 at 3:00pm
Yeah took a share Horse called Moana Jewel, Talked a bit more about her pedigree on another forum, has above average ability, shes on the small side but has a long stride length. Getting that to convert into winning races is an altogether different issue. Might see her in the spring if she can solve some issues.
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