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Gee Pierro going well! He may quinella the Everest ! Plus he’s got a few good three year olds that get over a bit of ground so he might get a Derby or two again. One of my favourite racehorses and it’s great to see him doing so well as a stallion.
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and yet the Pierro I bought into went like a donkey and was retired to pony club after 1 start beaten 95 lenghts
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SkyDancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 5:25pm
Dante Pierro a 26 start maiden son of Pierro running at Geelong today
$80,000 yearling. Prize money just over 12,000 at present
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On numbers he's as good as they come at the moment but if you get one of the bad ones they seem unable to gallop.  Don't have a clue what it takes but the Pierro/Redoute's seems to be the best for the stakes winners.  I've picked a few who can't gallop by his also -
from the 10 I picked from first crop two were stakes winners Pinot and Kentucky Breeze.  Gayatri may get one also sooner than later and Miss Shanti is an even placegetter.  But Pierro Moss retired with nothing, as did Rock on Drew and Lamarque.

My next crop only picked 8 but not much in the mix Perfect Pitch and Castel Sant'Angelo are city grade the rest three winners or next to nothing and three oops a daisy.

You'd think by now I'd know what to look for no the next crop back up to follow 10.   Bellevue Hill the best with Fiery Red finally a winner (I picked him for the Derby but Gai had him out early) who I'd like to go over a trip.  Two others have won including Peidra who ran a shocker last start but lots haven't run yet so maybe hopeless!

Might of learnt I only picked 7 this year.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tlazolteotl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2019 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

and yet the Pierro I bought into went like a donkey and was retired to pony club after 1 start beaten 95 lenghts


He was having an off day. Needed some of that Bart Cummings patience.
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Anyone got any word on Hawkshot?
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Not me Judge, however no trials or nominations since he last raced six months ago hardly fills you with confidence.
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Hawkshot sold to HK
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May 2019
Lindsay Park co-trainer David Hayes lamented the sale of a potential star to Hong Kong.

Group II winner Hawkshot will do his racing under the care of champion Hong Kong trainer John Size next season after Sun Bloodstock sold the three-year-old for an undisclosed sum.

Hayes said Hawkshot, a son of the Melbourne Cup winner Fiorente, was far from the finished article but would have been one of the stable’s best performers in his four-year-old season.

“I’m disappointed about it,” Hayes, who trained Hawkshot in partnership with his son Ben and nephew Tom Dabernig, said.

“I was really excited about training him for next year, because I thought he would be my weight-for-age horse.

“He was placed in the (Australian) Guineas, won the Autumn Stakes, didn’t go to Sydney to be spelled and looked magnificent.”

Hayes said Hawkshot’s previous owner, the Sun Bloodstock operation, must have received a “ridiculous” offer to part with the winner of three of 10 starts.

“He was raw and he would have been ready to show his best in the spring,” Hayes said.

“He’ll be a big loss to the stable because he’s a very exciting horse.”
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Thought he was one who might actually measure up in open company. Mr Quickie was good yesterday but I’ll be surprised if he’s up to it when the serious competition arrives. Two very good mares yesterday but a very thin batch of 4yos.

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Extra Brut also gone to HK
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Thanks SD. That is disappointing.
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If you were a Hawkshot fan Judge you might wanna keep an eye on his full brother POWER SCHEME 

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Didn’t realise that Ada. Be interested to see how PS goes. Hasn’t done much wrong so far.
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Was a good win firstup Judge 


Gelded and carrying 60kg giving them all 4.5kg bar the fav who carried 58kg


I was ON and wasn’t confident when he started to drift due to the condition he was carrying definately in need of the run and plenty of improvement ahead


Hes a nice horse G2 STUTT STAKES 1600m might be his next run

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After the last few days the question is can Pierro make it to being Champion Sire this season?  A win or a quinella in the Golden Rose, a win in the Golden Eagle etc etc.  It all would add up and he is already showing very good form from his runners.
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Interesting to see that the Wednesday meeting has a 2yo race at the not often used 900 meter distance at Flemington. First 2yo races use to be in SA with the Fulham Park Plate but SA breeding is such that that is long gone.

Also an VRC Oaks Trial (1800m) and VRC Derby Trail (1800m) which offer the winners ballot exemptions to the VRC Oaks and VRC Derby during the VRC Spring Carnival.

Historically I always thought that the Derby Trial Stakes @ Geelong was the top prep race for the VRC Derby.
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well Pierro has made it to the Leading Sire for the season a week before the Everest.  Will he remain there over the next few weeks?

He has two in the Everest and I am Invincible, Dundeel, Fastnet Rock, Not a Single Doubt, Exceed and Excel and Blackfriars the next six stallions will have no chance to win that race.  Zoustar at 8th has a chance as does Snitzel who is running 12th.  Nicconi is back 16th and also has to get his chance Nature Strip to go a strong 1200m and not overrace.  But even the others not in the top ten will go straight to first with a win.

This is unlike the first year of the Everest where Snitzel was so far ahead he may of kept the lead with a different sire winning the prize.  While last year he would of been caught at the time but still in front at the end of the season despite I am Invincible having a blinder.

There is alot of money going into the pot over the next four weeks.  So the list will be totally different in November.

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I apologise to Not a Single Doubt - totally forgot Classique Legend is by him!  So having started the season with the first two G1 winners he also has as chance here.
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