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    Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 3:47pm
Good to see this race revert back to its proper name as the Feehan Stakes for 2019 👏.

But what’s going on with the prizemoney of this race over the years?

It was a $500,000 race when Whobegotyou won it in 2009. Over the next 10 years it’s progressively been reducing & is only offering $250,000 for 2019 !

I thought Racing Victoria were trumpeting Spring prizemoney increases only a few months ago? Or was that just the VRC races ?

I’m not suggesting the Feehan Stakes deserves to be worth more than $250k, but just seems strange given the trend of inflated feature race prizemoney these days for this particular race to be going backwards in value.
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What was it previously called and when is it held?
Not familiar with the name at all
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Previously called Dato Tan Chin Nam Stakes
This weekend at MV

Last year was $250,000 won by Magic Consol
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Last 10 winners

2018 $250,000 Magic Consol
2017 $250,000 Bonneval
2016 $250,000 Awesome Rock
2015 $250,000 The Cleaner
2014 $250,000 The Cleaner
2013 $300,000 Fiorente
2012 $300,000 Happy Trails
2011 $300,000 Rekindled Interest
2010 $400,000 Whobegotyou
2009 $500,000 Whobegotyou
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Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

What was it previously called and when is it held?
Not familiar with the name at all

It’s been one of the important WFA races in the Spring for over 60 years.

The honour roll is not great in recent years since it was switched to be called Dato Tan Stks, but when it was the JF Feehan Stks it was won by bona fide superstars like Rubiton, Better Loosen Up, Strawberry Road, Northerly, Sunline, etc
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I remembered after I posted.
At my age it’s called a ‘senior moment’
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Magic Consul has honourable as he is would be the only horse out of place on the list above, Maybe Rekindle Interest as well.






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Howcome the race is not being the Dato Tan Chin Nam Stakes?
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Maybe cause the old fella has passes on and the committee don’t receive any money from the estate?
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Dato sponsored the race and named it after himself
His estate has now been wound up so the commercial agreement with the MVRC has now ceased.

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“I’m not suggesting the Feehan Stakes deserves to be worth more than $250k, but just seems strange given the trend of inflated feature race prizemoney these days for this particular race to be going backwards in value.”

Next month the Valley will host the Inglis Banner, a restricted sales early season 2yo race, worth twice the money. Says it all really.
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It's a shame since it's had so many champions win it to see it being neglected. 
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Race 7 - John F. Feehan Stakes (1600 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $250,000.1st $150,000, 2nd $45,000, 3rd $22,500, 4th $11,250, 5th $6,250, 6th $5,000, 7th $5,000, 8th $5,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 2
Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 

Field Limit: 15 + 4 EM

 Last 10HorseSexAgeTrainerHcp Rating
121x41x3324BEAU BALMAIN (GER)H5Jim Conlan90
213211x5Nx7BEST OF DAYS (GB)G6James Cummings108
311x60110x6FIFTY STARS (IRE)H5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig109
44840x5516xGALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR)H7Archie Alexander105
5069x4719x0HARLEM (GB)G8David & B Hayes & T Dabernig110
63x16x2172xHOMESMAN (USA)G6Liam Howley110
71x931911x7KENEDNAM6Ciaron Maher & David Eustace110
85233x8124xLIFE LESS ORDINARY (IRE)G8Chris Waller109
91x041650x6MAHAMEDEISG5Nick Ryan91
1011x2x04105MR MARATHON MAN (GB)G6Michael Moroney102
1112112x30x8NEUFBOSC (FR)G5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig106
1235x42170x4SIKANDARABAD (IRE)G7David & B Hayes & T Dabernig103
1311514132xSURPRISE BABY (NZ)G5Paul Preusker103
14305520x552SYLPHEEDM6Matt Cumani90
15x22470141xTHE CHOSEN ONE (NZ)H4Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman95
16216x5233x9TRAP FOR FOOLSG6Jarrod McLean110
173x0x6000x6VOLKSTOK’N’BARRELL (NZ)G8Danny O'Brien104
18436013x10xYUCATAN (IRE)H6Liam Howley108
1912221x00x7YULONG PRINCE (SAF)H5Chris Waller105




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Coincided with the elevation of the Memsie and Makybe Diva to Group 1, and the Makybe Diva/Feehan switching dates.

The race definitely seems to have been short changed. Similar to the Bill Stutt/Moonee Valley Stakes losing favour to the Guineas Preludes at Caulfield over the past 20 years or so.
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Still carries a win and you’re in for the Cox Plate
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Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

Still carries a win and you’re in for the Cox Plate

I think it’s also an auto qualifier for the Caulfield Cup.

I believe that Jim Conlan is trying to qualify Beau Balmain for the CC via the Feehan.
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Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

Still carries a win and you’re in for the Cox Plate


Yep that's right. If a horse wins the Feehan..they get a free ticket into the Caulfield Cup and Cox Plate.
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Originally posted by Lord Hybrow Lord Hybrow wrote:

Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

Still carries a win and you’re in for the Cox Plate

I think it’s also an auto qualifier for the Caulfield Cup.

I believe that Jim Conlan is trying to qualify Beau Balmain for the CC via the Feehan.

It will not work. LOL




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WA horse Trap For Fools is in it. I think he can run well. The field is not great..no decent WFA horses plus a few stayers resuming.
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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What is a WFA horse ?




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We've got the winners of the The Underwood, Queen Of The Turf, Emirates and Blamey in there, I think its a decent field.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

What is a WFA horse ?


A horse who wins under WFA conditions. Just like for some reason people call a stayer a "handicapper" or "handicap stayer" or "staying handicapper"
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Who are these decent WFA horses that should be in this race that aren’t?
The field is exactly what you would expect
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You also have to realise there is the Chelmsford in Sydney on the same day, over the same trip, under the same wfa conditions, for the same prizemoney and both are a Gr2
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

We've got the winners of the The Underwood, Queen Of The Turf, Emirates and Blamey in there, I think its a decent field.

....and the Australian Cup winner, the Doomben Cup winner, the Hollindale Stakes winner, the Mackinnon Stakes winner, a Group 1 winner from South Africa, a multiple Group 1 winner from New Zealand, last years Herbert Power winner, the Adelaide Cup winner, the Cantala Stakes winner and the runner up from the Grand Prix de Paris....  

There is nothing wrong with these nominations.  
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Agree with Tonto here. It’s attracted some really good noms this year.

I’m far more excited by this race than I was by last weekends Memsie Stales.
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We also have the best horse Sea The Stars has ever produced.




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Will be interesting to see how Surprise Baby runs. Maybe a rough chance to place. Stayers can on the odd occasion run well first up at shorter distances.

Time will tell.
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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