2018 W.S Cox Plate 2040m

The list I saw had field of 9

Red Rancher wrote: Did anyone watch the barrier draw on racing.com today? The spokesman for Godolphin said Winx needs to beat Benbatl by 20 lengths to deserve being the best horse in the world as he is no Enable or Cracksman. He said Winx is only beating very moderate opposition based on Best Solution's win the the CC and if the world handicapping panel is honest Cracksman should easily be re-rated the best horse in the world based on his last start win. Where do you begin? Cracksman is a world class middle distance mudlark who doesn't race on firm tracks because he cant win.

Nick wrote: So field of 8? Winxy in 6.

“Winxy”?

I don't think Benbatl will even run 2nd, Avilius a moral to run 2nd or 3rd

Avilius should push up along the rails to the first turn, make everyone go wide and do the donkey work, then let Avilius drift back, save energy.

Redemption wrote: Avilius should push up along the rails to the first turn, make everyone go wide and do the donkey work, then let Avilius drift back, save energy. I believe Avilius can cause a huge upset and win. Humidor got within half a length last year, saving about 7 to 9 metres if I recall correctly. If Avilius hugs the rails after making the field go wide at the first turn, its game on. Avilius has the turn of foot to switch off heels at the 200, and go BANG. $16 to $20 is value.

I disagree.

Despite all of her wins in succession, this is the most important race of her career. If these internationals beat her, her legacy will be forever tarnished by anyone overseas and by many here. She just simply has to win and win well.

Go Winx.

saintly96 wrote: Despite all of her wins in succession, this is the most important race of her career. If these internationals beat her, her legacy will be forever tarnished by anyone overseas and by many here. She just simply has to win and win well. Go Winx.

I don’t agree at all. I think her legacy is pretty well set in stone by now. 21 group ones and 3 cox plates, they can’t take em off her. There’ll be plenty of shock initially if she gets beat but in the long run it’s hardly going to make much difference to her legacy if she happens to drop one as a 7 year old.

maccamax wrote: 2 of her 3 wins have been in Course record time in the Cox Plate and still people talk fitness edge about others . O/S never say a good word about other horses and we do have the Worlds best to 2000m . Last Saturdays C.C was the biggest farce I've seen on a Racetrack in a lot of years. Winx raced 4 wide the entire trip last year and ran new Course figures . She wins this untouched.   Ideally drawn with nothing in there capable of matching her final 800m. Get on the queue at any price.

I agree Max. I gave up looking for something to beat her ever since she skipped through the bottomless heavy and won the George Ryder the way she did. She's a freak. Only danger to me is if as a 7 year old mare in springtime she wakes up Saturday morning and decides she doesn't want to do this racing business anymore. Mares can do that. But otherwise she's just too good, especially around Moonee Valley.

Donald Hiltonson wrote: saintly96 wrote: Despite all of her wins in succession, this is the most important race of her career. If these internationals beat her, her legacy will be forever tarnished by anyone overseas and by many here. She just simply has to win and win well. Go Winx. I don’t agree at all. I think her legacy is pretty well set in stone by now. 21 group ones and 3 cox plates, they can’t take em off her. There’ll be plenty of shock initially if she gets beat but in the long run it’s hardly going to make much difference to her legacy if she happens to drop one as a 7 year old.

Did you hear Matt Chapman this morning?

If Benbatl or Avilius beat her, everyone in Europe will say she wasn't any good. They are saying that now. She needs to win this one to silence dipsh!ts like Matt Chapman. If she loses they will say that a third rate UK horse beat her (which I don't agree with, as he started fave in the Queen Anne), if she wins they will say she beat their third raters.

Euro's are a hiding to nothing.

Mark my words, her worldwide legacy is on the line, us Aussies know how good she is, but overseas they don't rate her that highly.

Should she get beaten, unlikely as that is, I for one couldn't give a fig about how some in the NH might seek downgrade her.

So if she get beaten we should rate her on one below par performance rather than the 28 successful wins before-hand?

saintly96 wrote: The Euro's have us on a hiding to nothing. There is no successful outcome for Winx here except to win and win well.