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2018 Melbourne Cup 3200m Group 1 |
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Tlazolteotl
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Has Rekindling broken down or something?
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djebel
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He has an injury that ruled him out of the major spring races. They do hope or they did hope to attack a Sandown race.
Whilst I do not wish ill health on any horse it serves Williams right skipping all the autumn.
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reductio ad absurdum
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ThreeBears
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/ill-receive-trophy-in-thong-if-magic-circle-lands-melbourne-cup-warns-koukash/344260
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ThreeBears
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anabel
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Glancing over Weir’s many entries, I can only see 1 horse that started its career with him. The rest he picked up later in their careers. |
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horseshoe
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Hastings R6: M Cup Winner Goes Around Tomorrow
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Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know
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djebel
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Nashville ? |
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talk
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Ladies First? |
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Lord Hybrow
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Whichever one you’re thinking of horseshoe, you’ll get a nice price in the Cup!! It would be a real boost for the NZ racing industry if a Kiwi trained (& bred) horse won the Melbourne Cup this year. It’s been a long time since the last one.....Ethereal, I think? |
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Einstein
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djebel
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Surely Humidor is the nominal top weight ?
How embarrassing should our handicapper give that honour to a horse who has only won 2 group 3 races. |
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Shawy38
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Zacada? |
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James0330
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Best Solution wins again overnight in Germany, starting to put it together as a 4yo. Will get a run and still good odds available.
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VOYAGER
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Well horseshoe he has the right trainer, only Murray and Darren Weir, look remotely like training a cup winner from our region of the world! |
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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VOYAGER
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I see the winner, Sound Check, has been brought by Paul Moroney and will join his brothers Flemington stable for a tilt at the cups. |
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Heavenly Glow
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It will take a special horse to get near Youngstar this MC.
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VOYAGER
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I just saw his last run in France behind Best Solution and to my eye, it was better than his german win.
He looks to be improving, have added him to the futures bets I have already taken @$81.00. |
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Miami
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Back anything Charlie Appleby brings down.
Will be winning. |
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djebel
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Bushy
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GIven his never raced in France that's a good trick- he woudlnt win if he cut through the infield |
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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VOYAGER
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Yeah sorry I got my French mixed up with my German, which is even better as the German form is not bad when it comes to the Melbourne Cup. |
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cotto1
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Hi guys:
Are the weights released today for the Caulfield cup and the Melbourne cup?. |
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Ted
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Darren Weir's Humidor is the top weight for the Melbourne and Caulfield Cups, having been given a 58 kilogram burden in both events. Saeed Bin Suroor's Best Solution, a German group 1 winner in its last start, is second in the weights on 57.5 kilograms. He will bid to give Godolphin its first ever Cup winner. Aidan O'Brien's Lancaster Bomber, a group 1 winner in Europe, is on 57.5 kilos in the Melbourne Cup, his only entry, while the now German-trained Torcedor is on 57 kilograms. In Europe this year he has been close to the champion stayer Stradivarius on a number of occasions. |
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djebel
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Caulfield and Melbourne Cup - top weighted horses.
Humidor - 58kg
Best Solution - 57.5kg
Lancaster Bomber* - 57.5kg
Torcedor - 57kg
Cliffs Of Moher - 56.5kg
Comin’ Through - 56.5kg
Idaho - 56kg
Magic Circle* - 56kg
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reductio ad absurdum
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Lord Hybrow
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Well of those 8 highest weighted horse, there’s 3 that would have to be questionable runners:
Humidor - surely won’t go to Melb Cup, focus should be the Mackinnon Stakes 2000m Lancaster Bomber - hasn’t met 2300m+ performance qualifying clause Comin Through - hasn’t met 2300m+ performance qualifying clause Although a top 5 placing by the latter 2 in the Caulfield Cup would get them into the Melb Cup. |
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Jamal
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Not that it matters because Boom Time has been spelled due to a tendon injury and is out of the spring carnival but I noticed he was allocated 55kg for the Caulfield Cup this year. Last year e carried 52kg to win the Caulfield Cup. I would of thought maybe he would of been given 56kg this year?
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Einstein
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Long Row
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Anyone word on which horses the O'Briens are bringing out?
There's some juicy odds around, however if I back all 10 to 15 of them it kind of defeats the purpose. |
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