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    Posted: 22 May 2018 at 10:00pm
It's hard to get enthused about another WFA sprint but it is a G1 and fortunately this year it's the REAL Doomben 10,000 despite the BRC's hatchet job on history.

Noms below. Unlikely horses at top of the ballot have been italicised. Acceptances tomorrow. Max 16 starters.

Thoughts? Interest?

Top 4 in the market all figured in the quasi 10,000
Le Romain       $4
Impending      $4.50
Care To Think $7
English            $9

Given how thin it looks I wouldn't be surprised if Baker accepts here with Champagne Cuddles in lieu of the Fred Best.

KINGSFORD-SMITH CUP (1350 METRES)
Of $700,000.1st $427,000, 2nd $143,500, 3rd $73,500, 4th $35,000, 5th $21,000GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.

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Field Limit: 16 + 5 EM

 Last 10HorseSexAgeTrainerBallotWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
1x1111x2124REDZELG5Peter & Paul Snowden159kg119
223x112x139IN HER TIMEM5Benjamin Smith257kg115
3330x603717CATCHYF3David & B Hayes & T Dabernig355kg106
412x2411x20VIDDORAM5Lloyd Kennewell457kg109
53341x23x12IMPENDINGH4James Cummings559kg112
6x3179x3160HOUTZENF3Toby Edmonds655kg98
72x250x7423LE ROMAING5Kris Lees759kg116
8x4269x5261ENGLISHM5Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott857kg115
923475x3848FOXPLAYM4Chris Waller957kg110
10x341x6x031SANTA ANA LANEG5Anthony Freedman1059kg111
115400x78056TAKEDOWNG5Gary Moore1159kg106
122450x41500TULIPF3David & B Hayes & T Dabernig1255kg90
133x385x666xCLEARLY INNOCENTG6Kris Lees1359kg110
14x11013x0x0FORMALITYF3David & B Hayes & T Dabernig1455kg101
15211x1112x6CARE TO THINKG4Matthew Dunn1559kg105
16x257x145x0VOODOO LADG6Darren Weir1659kg107
170x731x076xSHILLELAGH (NZ)M6Chris Waller1757kg109
1868x008x900DERRYNH4David & B Hayes & T Dabernig1859kg101
19x641241x28MOST IMPORTANTG5Tony Gollan1959kg106
20x2x533x98xDANON LIBERTY (JPN)H6Darren Weir2059kg103
2112x13x3503INVINCIBLE GEMM4Kris Lees2157kg107
22x1x32222x1CHAMPAGNE CUDDLESF3Bjorn Baker2255kg98
23290x2860x5SPIETH (NZ)H5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig2359kg106
2411x1170x40MONSIEUR GUSTAVEG5Darryl Hansen2459kg104
25347x281119QUILISTAM4Darren Weir2557kg105
260600x85550THE MISSIONC3Paul Perry2657kg98
2715330x3717BURNING PASSIONG6Mark Newnham2759kg104
281331511141CELLARMANG4Chris Waller2859kg104
290x61486x64ULMANNG6Darren Weir2959kg104
30x160x117x2VOLPE VELOCEM4Graham Richardson & Gavin Parker3057kg105
31x613212120STELLAR COLLISIONG5Darren Weir3159kg102
326x13x14020THRONUMH4David & B Hayes & T Dabernig3259kg107
3324x70x0561FIRST AMONG EQUALSG6Darren Weir3359kg101
3414270x0172SOVEREIGN NATIONG5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig3459kg104
3500821x0918FASTNET TEMPEST (IRE)G5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig3559kg101
365x319450x7GRANDE ROSSOG6Peter & Paul Snowden3659kg100
371220x28693MR SNEAKYG4Anthony Freedman3759kg100
388485313x11SIREN’S FURYM4Jason Coyle3857kg96
39184216x507LUBITONM4Bjorn Baker3957kg97
4012x314x226TEST THE WORLD (NZ)M4Bjorn Baker4057kg89
4173715x5791PERASTC3Paul Perry4157kg90
4237360x1415WHISPERING BROOKM4Darren Weir4257kg101
437x12x02016GLENALLH4Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes4359kg97
445x6001056xLUCKY HUSSLERG8Darren Weir4459kg112
4519x4407x07OURS TO KEEPG3Chris Munce4557kg77.5
460x360x3149ENDLESS DRAMA (IRE)H6Chris Waller4659kg107
470x20x380x2SNOOPYG5Chris Munce4759kg94
4830x15x4546SUPIDOH6Michael Kent4859kg105
49x430x70100MISS GUNPOWDERM5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig4957kg97
5051x3126x40FIRSTHANDG5Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes5059kg91
517490x39005DANISH TWISTM6Kris Lees5157kg99
52112x110x35WHITE MOSSM4Jason Coyle5257kg100
531233x600x0CELLARGIRLF3Kelly Schweida5355kg82
54111x336x71HAVASAYG5Liam Birchley5459kg91
55x0636x5002ECHO EFFECTG4Kristen Buchanan5559kg88
56x24271x830CHARLIE BOYG7Tony Gollan5659kg100
572x699778x0WELL SPRUNGG5Kris Lees5759kg88
581250x377x4SHOGUN SUNG3Kelly Schweida5857kg75
59117x90x16CHAMP ELECTF3Chris Munce5955kg76
6044x3121168HOLY BLADEC3Darren Weir6057kg76
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Danon Liberty not running here.
stradbroke first up
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Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

Danon Liberty not running here.
stradbroke first up

They are taking a gamble, He is I suspect about 30 in order with his 103 rating.

It is a gamble that they probably need to take for him to be a genuine winning chance.

Care To Think probably should be doing the same.
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Gee I like Impending here, had the best jockey on last start so he would'nt have a gut buster, if he's kept on won't lack horsemanship, who rides Redzel anyone?
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Redzel's spelling Carioca. 
Spieth pricked a hoof so not starting. 
Invincible Gem going straight to Straddie. 

Backed Impending e/w, think Le Romain is the winner with a decent barrier so will back him also.
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Oh, did not know about Red, thanks anyway 3bm.
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Looks a race between Le Romain and Impending as 3BM said.
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You would think that none of the goodwood horses back up here.

There is no 3yo, including Champagne Cuddles, nominated who could win this at wfa, so they should all show up in the Fred Best.

Can not see anything from 16 down winning, so good luck if they show up.

In Her Time and Foxplay can run well but they will not win.

If Clearly Innocent or Takedown win, I will walk from Goulburn to Sydney naked.

So that leaves us with Impending, Le Romaine, English and Care To Think.

Care To Think and English will be giving the other two a start from the turn and so for me Le Romaine from Impending with English and Care To Think to fight out third.

Chamapagne Cuddles is the one who could run top four.
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Barrier draw very important.
I could forgive In Her Time if she draws well as she seems to have been written off.
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No real surprise to see Champagne Cuddles accept here - gives them a direct guide to horses they will meet in the Stradbroke. Don't think barriers will make much difference but she looks somewhat disadvantaged should she begin slowly.

Spieth's hoof prick must have been overblown or healing very quickly.


Race 7 - 2:59PM ALTUS TRAFFIC KINGSFORD-SMITH CUP (1350 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $700,000.1st $427,000, 2nd $143,500, 3rd $73,500, 4th $35,000, 5th $21,000GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf 

Field Limit: 16 + 5 EM

NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
13341x23x12IMPENDINGJames CummingsDamian Browne959kg112
22x250x7423LE ROMAINKris LeesGlyn Schofield559kg116
3211x1112x6CARE TO THINKMatthew DunnJames McDonald1159kg105
4x641241x28MOST IMPORTANTTony GollanJim Byrne359kg106
5290x2860x5SPIETH (NZ)David & B Hayes & T Dabernig259kg106
611x1170x40MONSIEUR GUSTAVEDarryl Hansen659kg104
75x6001056xLUCKY HUSSLERDarren WeirDamian Lane759kg112
80x360x3149ENDLESS DRAMA (IRE)Chris WallerTye Angland459kg107
9x4269x5261ENGLISHGai Waterhouse & Adrian BottTim Clark157kg115
10x160x117x2VOLPE VELOCEGraham Richardson & Gavin ParkerJake Bayliss857kg105
11x1x32222x1CHAMPAGNE CUDDLESBjorn BakerCorey Brown1055kg98
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TAB has gone up 

Impending                 $4
Le Romain                  $4.40
English                       $4.80
Champagne Cuddles  $7 
Care To Think             $7.50
Volpe Veloce              $12
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Anyone else giving Volpe Veloce a chance in this?
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Wait a minute.

Spieth was every bit as good, if not better a run than Care To Think, and he is double the price. He is a definite hope of at least beating Care To Think home, as long as the hoof is right, and as punters we have to trust the trainer/s with that.

He is the one who I did not rate in my original post, but Spieth can win!
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I give everything a chance. Endless Drama with the freshen up is interesting. 

Being the cynic I am, I would imaging all the entires are trying in this race whilst the owners of geldings have other motivations ?


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WHY THEY HELL WAS SPEITH ACCEPTED FOR THIS RACE ?

HE IS ALREADY SCRATCHED - WHY

Yes I am yelling. 
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Originally posted by blackbook blackbook wrote:

Anyone else giving Volpe Veloce a chance in this?

At his best some chance for sure.
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Spieth - communication breakdown presumably djebel 
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Don't know how many times I've had to correct my spelling before posting the name. The sound doesn't exactly match the spelling, not that that is unusual. Thief, belief, relief....
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if champagne cuddles improves or at least holds her form from her first up run she is a special 
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There is absolutely zero pace in this race ! Won't suit impending or champagne cuddles at all. If Schofield had half a brain which I'm not confident he does he would pop Le romaine outside the leader control the speed and win.
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Of course Monsieur will lead but you won't see it go that fast after last starts debacle.
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Agree, LR's All Aged run should be his model. Pity Collett's not available. 

Pace won't be fast but should be okay with LR, MI, MG, English, CC and possibly Volpe all wanting an early possie. If Godolphin are on the ball they might well push up early to get a position on Impending. His Darley run showed he can pace it with the best when required

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Couple of interesting reports (which probably make no diff whatsoever but are useful to know).

Dunn reckons CTT is going VERY well on the track. Time to get on for the Stradbroke?

Sky reported that Le Romain worked as well as he had before narrowly going down to Trapeze Artist (arguably should have won). Dufficy: yeh but Gollogy uses and alarm clock LOL 
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I just can not see Care To Think running properly tomorrow and being fresh and fast enough for the 1350m in 2 weeks time no matter what weight he gets in the Stradbroke.
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Don't rate Matthew Dunn and possibly JMac? No doubt a few would prefer the real distance on a better track
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Don't rate Matthew Dunn and possibly JMac? No doubt a few would prefer the real distance on a better track

And you would be right to think that way 3bm, maybe next year things will be back in its proper place, this race brought on a penalty for the winner last year to his Stradbroke weight, but dates have changed and I don't think weights are out yet which gives the handicapper a free hit with weights, it makes this race imo tricky.
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Weights Tuesday week? Tomorrow's result won't make much difference to most of those at the top of the ratings I expect (short of an unlikely runaway win). CTT and CC probably get a little more if they win or go very close tomorrow. CC should get in very light as a 3YO filly with as yet no open class  (but damn good 3YO)  form. I'm not expecting CTT to win tomorrow in which case he'll get a nice weight.
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