2018 G1 Caulfield Cup 2400m

Kingy wrote: Gotta agree with the Williams on KWD. I just don't understand it... He doesn't ride for Weir. It's Yendall, Rawiller, Allen or Lane.  I thought it was a very tough run he gave KWD last start.  I watched the horse pretty closely and am in the opinion that it should be in the paddock. That last run seemed to take a lot out of him.  But I suppose if anyone can get the horse to peak again it's Weiry. I just don't think KWD will run top 5. Massive lay.

Williams rides for Weir in town almost every weekend

Tlazolteotl wrote: COM v Red Verdon- who wins that h2h? Why?

I have COM on top of the ratings, so for me he is going to beat RV home.

The reason is that I have watched RV's last three runs, and he loomed up to win, but he just faltered late.

His form is fantastic, but I think he is about 12 months off being a fully matured galloper, and for me he will run well but can not win.

I might be wrong, but that is why it is called gambling.

I also think he will be better for the run here in Australia and be better suited at Flemington over the 3200m.

The CliffsofMoher can not run 3200m, so I think this is the race he has been set for, he has proven he has settled in, even though he has not won at 2400m, his form has been in high quality 2400m races, where as RV's 2400 form includes wins at a lower level early in his career.

I just think RV will be better suited at Flemington, and that he is 12 months off being a consistent winner at this level.

If people like him I am not going to say do not back him, but he is one I am taking on.

VOYAGER wrote: Tlazolteotl wrote: COM v Red Verdon- who wins that h2h? Why? I have COM on top of the ratings, so for me he is going to beat RV home. The reason is that I have watched RV's last three runs, and he loomed up to win, but he just faltered late. His form is fantastic, but I think he is about 12 months off being a fully matured galloper, and for me he will run well but can not win. I might be wrong, but that is why it is called gambling. I also think he will be better for the run here in Australia and be better suited at Flemington over the 3200m. The CliffsofMoher can not run 3200m, so I think this is the race he has been set for, he has proven he has settled in, even though he has not won at 2400m, his form has been in high quality 2400m races, where as RV's 2400 form includes wins at a lower level early in his career. I just think RV will be better suited at Flemington, and that he is 12 months off being a consistent winner at this level. If people like him I am not going to say do not back him, but he is one I am taking on.

RV and it's simply 2 reasons why -

Lloyd doesn't care about winning CC but the major reason RV will be in blinkers. They have held off using them all prep back home till Saturday. This is RVs GF.

I have read the many posts on the various forums and no one has really touched on the rail being out 6m for the Caulfield meet, last time it was out 6m it had a huge bias for on speed runners, CC is a race for well handicapped horses and those who had Yucatan as a moral then you could easily pick Gallic Chieftain making good ground into 4th finished a race strongly enjoys the back up gets a luxury weight and draws 2 which i an guessing maybe 4 pairs back the rail which is about as far back as i would want to be with the rail out 6metres with the bias.

Ace High will do me here. Probably be gone at the 600 now.

Caulfield Cup used to be one of my favourite betting races but now it's a lucky dip. Too many different formlines: too many unanswerable questions.

Youngstar's chances have gone up tenfold with this rain.

Jameka? 2016?

Jon Snow is good odds for a horse that stays and likes the rain. 

jacko1 wrote: Jon Snow is good odds for a horse that stays and likes the rain.

But how wet does the track need to be for Jon Snow to run well? He goes better in a heavy track then a soft track

Glad to see some money for VENTURA STORM. best roughie in the race imo.

Best Solution
Ace high
homesman
KWD

Breeding Above All wrote: Best Solution Ace high homesman KWD

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Kingy wrote: I bloody hope JAAMEH gets a run. Still spewing about that bloody protest and how quickly it was dismissed  I'm always wary of anything Cosgrave is riding.. even from barrier 17 he could win this with one of his peaches. I'll be taking a few bets into BEST SOLUTION. SOUND CHECK should run a ripper. I'm more keen for SC in the Melbourne Cup as 2400 is too short. He's a ripping stayer imo. I think VENTURA STORM is the best roughie in the race. Has been building very nicely this prep. DURETTO's another I could see winning this, especially drawing the pole. Will need luck of course but the horse does like to be cuddled up and inside of runners from a few races I've seen. Definitely having something on at 20-1.  Then there's the locals, IMO KINGS WILL DREAM wont run top 5. 1 run too many imo. on the other hand, ACE HIGH looks like he's dead set primed 100% for his grand final. I'm pretty keen to back him too. The is fine, excellent jockey on and he hasn't had to run in the slop in NSW, which I think is a massive plus. Great race to have a bet on a few and come out on top. Am hoping JAAMEH gets in, otherwise I'm already on and keen to back; ACE HIGH BEST SOLUTION SOUND CHECK VENTURA STORM