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I like Red Cardinal. Almandin has been good so far as well.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Any news on whether saeed bin suroor has a cups contender this year?
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Hi guys:
What is the drum with egg tart are they aiming her for the m cup.she will be carrying hardly any weight at all.if she goes for it.
How do you guys rate her chances?.
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Any news on whether saeed bin suroor has a cups contender this year?


Saeed bin Suroor skips Melbourne spring

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Godolphin trainer Saeed bin Suroor will be missing from the Spring Racing Carnival for the first time in a decade after it was confirmed on Thursday morning that none of his nominated horses would be entering quarantine for a trip to Melbourne.

Emirates Melbourne Cup entrants Natural Scenery, Prize Money, Red Galileo and Winning Story were in consideration for a trip down under, as was Cox Plate-nominated galloper Best Solution.

The Newmarket-based trainer claimed the Group 2 Zipping Classic in 2016 with staying mare Beautiful Romance, eight years after he famously prepared All The Good to win the 2008 Caulfield Cup. He’s also come close in the Melbourne Cup in recent years with Beautiful Romance (seventh in 2016), Lost In The Moment (sixth in 2011) and Crime Scene (second in 2009).

Godolphin's hopes of Group 1 success during the spring will rest with local horseman James Cummings, as well as UK trainer Charlie Appleby who already has Francis of Assisi, Folkswood, Qewy and Kidmenever in quarantine in Newmarket ahead of their arrival in Melbourne on Saturday week.
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Originally posted by cotto1 cotto1 wrote:

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What is the drum with egg tart are they aiming her for the m cup.she will be carrying hardly any weight at all.if she goes for it.
How do you guys rate her chances?.

I do not think anybody has any idea what she is doing apart from the Epsom Handicap.

She is a big chance in any race she runs in.
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Egg Tart is no hope based on the prep she is having, i doubt they will even go there
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Any news on whether saeed bin suroor has a cups contender this year?



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<p style="-sizing: border-; : relative; line-height: 1.8em;">Emirates Melbourne Cup entrants Natural Scenery, Prize Money, Red Galileo and Winning Story were in consideration for a trip down under, as was Cox Plate-nominated galloper Best Solution.

<p style="-sizing: border-; : relative; line-height: 1.8em;">The Newmarket-based trainer claimed the Group 2 Zipping Classic in 2016 with staying mare Beautiful Romance, eight years after he famously prepared All The Good to win the 2008 Caulfield Cup. He’s also come close in the Melbourne Cup in recent years with Beautiful Romance (seventh in 2016), Lost In The Moment (sixth in 2011) and Crime Scene (second in 2009).

<p style="-sizing: border-; : relative; line-height: 1.8em;">Godolphin's hopes of Group 1 success during the spring will rest with local horseman James Cummings, as well as UK trainer Charlie Appleby who already has Francis of Assisi, Folkswood, Qewy and Kidmenever in quarantine in Newmarket ahead of their arrival in Melbourne on Saturday week.



Cheers. well thats that stable done and dusted for this years cup. gotta find another overseas entrant now.
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Race 7 - Emirates Melbourne Cup (3200 METRES)
Of $6,000,000.1st $3,600,000, 2nd $1,080,000, 3rd $540,000, 4th $270,000, 5th $150,000, 6th $120,000, 7th $120,000, 8th $120,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distributionGROUP 1
Handicap, Minimum Weight 50kg, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf 

Field Limit: 24

 Last 10HorseSexAgeTrainerBallotWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
11234x21211ORDER OF ST GEORGE (IRE)H6Aidan O'Brien158kg1.5
223x2822x12HARTNELL (GB)G7James Cummings257.5kg2
3x665111x21ALMANDIN (GER)G8Robert Hickmott356.5kg3
41x4011115xGINGERNUTS (NZ)G4Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards455kg3
53337311x68JON SNOW (NZ)H4Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman554.5kg3.5
639x260x34xADMIRE DEUS (JPN)H7Darren Weir656kg3.5
7x42212x681HUMIDOR (NZ)G5Darren Weir756kg3.5
846x2171x5xALBERT (JPN)H7Noriyuki Hori855.5kg4
9x5P31111x1BONNEVAL (NZ)M4Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman952.5kg4
10242x11711xTIBERIAN (FR)H6Alain Couetil1055.5kg4
11210x140124REKINDLING (GB)H4Joseph O'Brien1151.5kg4
1212x3361x8xSENSE OF OCCASIONG7Kris Lees1255.5kg4
131x00x518x7TAVAGO (NZ)G5Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young1355kg4.5
142114x9066xPRIZE MONEY (GB)G5Saeed Bin Suroor1455kg4.5
151132x11x5xRED CARDINAL (IRE)G6Andreas Wohler1555kg4.5
161232x1521xMARMELO (GB)H5Hughie Morrison1655kg4.5
1733x5126x69INFERENCEH4Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes1753.5kg4.5
1813212x322xBARSANTI (IRE)G6Roger Varian1855kg4.5
1931x11111x2EGG TARTM4Chris Waller1951.5kg5
200312612x05SINGLE GAZEM5Nick Olive2053kg5
211x3x45712xJOHANNES VERMEER (IRE)H5Aidan O'Brien2154.5kg5
2255x3642x94WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ)G9Chris Waller2254kg5.5
231x2x30x91xMAX DYNAMITE (FR)G8William Mullins2354kg5.5
24027530x00xLASQUETI SPIRITM4Lee Curtis2451kg5.5
2501121x5x76VENTURA STORM (IRE)H5David & B Hayes & T Dabernig2554kg5.5
2610x8142444WICKLOW BRAVE (GB)G9William Mullins2654kg5.5
27x37710x24xTALLYG5James Cummings2754kg5.5
2812652x5770HARPER’S CHOICEH4Gerald Ryan2852.5kg5.5
290x46x11x8xFRANCIS OF ASSISI (IRE)G8Charlie Appleby2954kg5.5
301211x12x9LSTAR EXHIBITG6Darren Weir3054kg5.5
311130x22x3xST MICHEL (GB)H5Sir Mark Prescott3154kg5.5
32114407x5x8SIR ISAAC NEWTON (GB)G6Robert Hickmott3254kg5.5
33x11x330x90BONDI BEACH (IRE)G6Robert Hickmott3354kg5.5
34428x320386US ARMY RANGER (IRE)H5Aidan O'Brien3453.5kg6
351121113x55BIG DUKE (IRE)G6Darren Weir3553.5kg6
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Mate you can scratch St Michel from that list. Has had a setback and won't be coming unfortunately
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Hi there guys:
On that  list from djebel.
Humidor is crossed out.Why is that?.
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I am unloading on Albert. 

He's the 3rd favourite in the Japan G1 2200 All Comers today. Hope he comes because he is a massise chance.
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Originally posted by cotto1 cotto1 wrote:

Hi there guys:
On that  list from djebel.
Humidor is crossed out.Why is that?.



I have made a guess, probably incorrectly, that he will not go there.

Do not take too much notice of it.
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Originally posted by Red Rancher Red Rancher wrote:

I am unloading on Albert. 

He's the 3rd favourite in the Japan G1 2200 All Comers today. Hope he comes because he is a massise chance.

Well this time last year you were singing the praises of Curren Mirotic and 'unloaded' on him for the Melb Cup. But he was only ever just the token Japanese runner to ensure the VRC got their 3% cut of the Japanese tote pool. As expected he ran an inglorious 23rd.

Let's see if Albert can do better for you Red Rancher.
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Cant win every year!Won $26k on Protectionist. Have put $1k on Albert to win $31k if he starts.
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Originally posted by Red Rancher Red Rancher wrote:

Cant win every year!Won $26k on Protectionist. Have put $1k on Albert to win $31k if he starts.

Good luck with that $1k bet RR. I haven't seen vision of today's race but results show he ran a well beaten 7th at Nakayama today over 2200m. I know today's distance is well below his best, but you'd have to wonder if connections would bother coming to Melbourne, especially when he could stay at home and get ready for a 3rd consecutive Nippon Sho over 3600m in the first week of December.
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He is the one in the black and red with the light coloured cap ( not sure what colour that is Embarrassed ) Number 2 saddle clothe.

His jockey swings him sharply wide as they come around the bend as a horse up front stops quickly in front of him.

I think it was a great run.
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Jap trainer said he was a 80% chance of coming barring injury today.
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Thanks for the vid. Huge run at an unsuitable distance.
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Originally posted by Lord Hybrow Lord Hybrow wrote:

[QUOTE=Red Rancher] Cant win every year!Won $26k on Protectionist. Have put $1k on Albert to win $31k if he starts.



Wow that win on protectionist.Is better then a kick up the bum.
I always enjoy hearing the legendary stories of people jagging a win and a dollar.
Good luck to you this year.
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Dylan Mouth out of cup
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Admire Deus arrives tomorrow
Appleby/Godolphin runners arrive Friday

Another batch arrives Saturday
And the final batch arrives a couple of weeks after that.
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any chance order of st george can back up from the arc to run in the melbourne cup?
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any chance order of st george can back up from the arc to run in the melbourne cup?

Quarantine problems I suspect.
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Originally posted by TOLEDO TOLEDO wrote:

any chance order of st george can back up from the arc to run in the melbourne cup?

Unfortunately they need to be in quarantine by the 28th September. 
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I think Harlem has an air of timing about him. Low down in the weights and peaking at the right time the big Cups double might not be beyond him.
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Originally posted by mikey mikey wrote:

I think Harlem has an air of timing about him. Low down in the weights and peaking at the right time the big Cups double might not be beyond him.

Even after his 0.5kg penalty for winning the Naturalism Stks, he's still only 59th in the order of entry for the Melb Cup at the moment. There wail be plenty drop out at 1st acceptances next month but I think he's going to need to win something on the way through to make the field. I'm sure David Hayes is hoping that win will be the Caulfield Cup, but if he doesn't win that, they may need to backup in the MV Cup, Bendigo Cup or Hotham Hcp to force his way into the Melb Cup field.
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