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    Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 9:15pm
I know we have plenty of competitions already, but i'm just curious if there is enough interest in doing another one, where the basic idea would be that everybody picks one horse each from any yearling sale, and try to get the best return possible on the sale price and/or get the best bargain out of everybody's choice.

I would do all the work on it, as Dizzy and Gay3 already have their hands full, unless they were happy to chip in but regardless i am happy to do all the work.

So basically the rules would be everybody gets 1 yearling pick, and the overall ideas would be to pick the cheapest yearling to get a decent return on the track, not sure whether i would put an upper limit in the comp, something like 10k maximum purchase price, and/or a condition such as only focus on horses that stay in Aus, as obviously any horses that go to HK etc have a big advantage when it comes to prizemoney.

If people are interested let me know in this thread, if you think their is enough comps running already let me know as well, i suspect a few people might think this is the case.


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I'll give it one more shot, but if not that's cool, i just thought it'd be a nifty idea trying to go bargain hunting.
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I like the idea... though less than $10k is a very, very small pool of horses to choose from. Could we make it less than $20k, and the winner is the greatest % return on purchase price?
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My girl was $12k... at $97k in prizemoney she'd have been a good one for this comp!!
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I reckon it's a good idea too. Agree with SS that $20k is probably a fair limit.
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Yeah the 10k was just thrown in there as a random number, i'm completely open to ideas, but i think the best way to do it would be prizemoney, coz obviously you could do things like get a filly and then eventually she gets sold as a broodie for a decent price, and considering fillies more likely to get retired early maybe go for colts only?

Again i'm just throwing ideas in here.
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Agree with the prizemoney only being counted as opposed to sales prices. Maybe we should get a backup in case on retires early? But only use the backup if the horse is retired before their 4th birthday maybe..
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Just don't let Ted enter! (% is return on cost.)LOL
 
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TedLope De VegaDancescape749 $    14,000.00 Ocean City3-1-1-0David Payne (NSW) $     26,925.00  
     $    14,000.00     $     26,925.00 192.32%
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Yeah a backup is pretty easy, we don't have to track them unless we use it, but you can only sub if dead or retired officialy, even though i know some are retired but not 'officially' so that could be a small snag.

Thoughts on oz racing only?  HK money is higher, nz and south africa very low.
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Should be Aus only... easier comparison. Doubt there'd be too many in that price bracket being shipped out though??

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A filly just won in South Africa that was bought for $5,000 so yes they go overseas at that price.  Some also find their way to Korea and Macau and Singapore in that price bracket.
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Maybe the rule could be that if your first choice goes o/s your substitute gets activated.
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Well can I get things kicked off with my first pick? Here's a cheapie I liked on page at least today at Classic 2:

Lot 98 Testa Rossa Tipsy Moment S Snow $13,000

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I'll go with another one from today:

Lot 10 High Chaparral x Beauty Watch $11,000
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First pick:

Lot 289 Inglis Vobis Gold.  Filly by Al Maher from Honor Hymn.  $4,000 to Parnham Racing Stables WA.
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Reserve choice:

Lot 14 Inglis Vobis Gold.  Colt by Stryker from Given.  $5k to Gerald Egan.
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I'll double up on my 2016 competition cheapie and have:
VOBIS Gold, 204, Lope De Vega ex Etoile D'Cozzene, $14k, Alexander Racing.
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March MM sale
Lot 134. Collate. x. Gooyah
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Vobis gold L242 Bon Hoffa/Princess Reves $500
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She doesn't look to bad for a $500 buy

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Sorry i don't know how to format it in a spreadsheet on the forum like the other guys do.


Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate/Gooyah - $7,000

BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal/Beauty Watch - $11,000

Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega/Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher/Honor Hymn - $4,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker/Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa/Princess Reves - $500

Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa/Tipsy Moment - $13,000
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Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel/Actress - $10,000


I have to think something must be very wrong with the horse to go this cheap, but his page is just too good.
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I'm away at the moment so can I wait till later (much later as will have to catch up with work when I get home) to find one.
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Unless anyone has an issue i think leave submissions open for a couple of months?
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Inglis Classic, Lot 95, Street Boss ex Syria, $5K, Inglis as Agent
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VOBIS Gold Lot 225 Krupt x Jayjaye $12,000 Ryan Balfour SA

Sub VOBIS Gold Lot 41 Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley $5,000 Mick Cornish and Donna Gaskin VIC
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Originally posted by Dizzy Dizzy wrote:

Just don't let Ted enter! LOL 

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn Dizzy Wink

Inglis Vobis Gold Lot 238 Nicconi x Military Training $18,000 Kane Harris
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Suggestion re cut off date, how about July 31 (end of season?)
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Sounds good - might be some qualifiers at the MM June sales
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Were you at the Vobis Gold sale Ted? For this comp i started looking at the Nicconi's, only  on line, nice types, wonderful stallion percentage, and cheap. Deserves to do better.
For this comp, will probably settle on Lot 253, related to Bomber Bill, bought by D O'Sullivan for 10k
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