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the last two days of the Cheltenham meet have been splendid, Taquin de Seuil's win was outstanding..Thistlecrack will be player at the March meet also...the win by Anteros was unreal too..
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For the second time in a week, a relationship between a trainer and a bookmaker was under scrutiny on Thursday after Nicky Henderson disclosed that Altior, the favourite for the Champion Chase at Cheltenham in March, will miss his intended return in the Tingle Creek Chase because of a wind problem, and revealed the news via a blog on the Unibet website.

Altior had been on the drift in ante-post betting for several hours by the time Henderson’s blog post went live at around 6pm on Wednesday. Anyone in the know was in a position to hoover up money looking to back Altior, or back other leading contenders against him, safe in the knowledge he would not be going to Sandown on 9 December.

Once the Henderson blog was live, it became clear Altior had “made a whistling noise” last Saturday, which was diagnosed on Tuesday as “a small issue with his wind whereby his larynx isn’t opening sufficiently”. This seemed to contrast abruptly with a quote from Henderson to At The Races, also on Tuesday and three days after Altior’s whistle alerted him to a potential problem, that the chaser was “totally on target” for the Tingle Creek.

Henderson did not respond to a request for comment on Thursday but, after more than three decades at the peak of the game, his yard is full to overflowing and he might well argue that were he to report every niggle affecting one of his horses, he would have little time for anything else. Altior’s “whistle” simply turned out to be far more significant than it seemed at the time and the trainer would also feel obliged to pass on any bad news to an owner first. Even in the age of mobiles and email, people can sometimes take a while to track down.

Yet Altior does stand out as the stable star at Seven Barrows and, while the owners pay his training bills, it is punters, via the money they lose in betting, who provide a significant part of the prize money. It does not feel right that the news of a wind problem emerged via a betting site four days after the first hint of a difficulty. While there is no suggestion Unibet made use of its advance knowledge, the moves in the markets on Wednesday imply that somebody did.

The other recent case involving a trainer and a bookmaker concerned David Evans, who was fined a total of £3,140 for withholding news of a non-runner from his yard in an attempt to get a better price about a stablemate in the same race.

There are so many odd and disturbing aspects to the Evans case that it is difficult to know where to start. It emerged at the hearing that Evans routinely received price boosts, from 3-1 to 7-2 for instance, when backing his own horses with Ladbrokes. He got a boost when placing a £6,000 bet on Black Dave at Wolverhampton in January 2015, having told a trader at the firm in the same call that Tango Sky, his other runner in the race, was about to be scratched. And Ladbrokes then cut the price about Tango Sky from 7-2 to 3-1, despite having just been told, from the horse’s mouth as it were, the horse would not be running.

An odd thing to do, on the face of it, except it ensured the Rule 4 deduction from winning bets on the race, calculated on the basis of a horse’s price at the time of withdrawal, would be 25p in the pound and not 20p. Ladbrokes also held on to Evans’s stake, as Black Dave finished fourth at 6-4, having laid a £6,000 bet at inflated odds when the same firm routinely restricts punters to betting in pennies if they show they persistently beat the SP.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/16/altior-snippets-punters-trainers-bookmakers




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My Tent Or Yours well fancied in the Champion Hurdle tonight Big smile
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Great to see Lizzie Kelly kick a winner home for her mum and step father. Lovely girl who I met at Cheltenham during my Euro trip last year. She fell off in the Gold Cup that day and a much better result this time round.
 
Gee Footpad was awesome too in the Arkle. Thumbs Up
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I see there are jump races on at Huntingdon today.   I lived there for awhile and never went to the races ! Looking back now I cant believe it.  Wacko
But one race today is just for the lady riders.  Quite a few starters in it too. Thumbs Up
How do you find vision of those races you mention, 3Bs ??
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Cheltenham Festival: BHA to carry out review after six horse deaths at event

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Some Plan was one of three horses to suffer fatal injuries in the concluding Grand Annual Chase

The British Horseracing Authority (BHA) is to carry out a review after six horses died at the four-day Cheltenham Festival.

Four horses had to be put down on Friday's final day of racing.

Sandsend, ridden by Katie Walsh, was put down after suffering a leg injury during the County Hurdle.

Three more horses - Dresden, Some Plan and North Hill Harvey - suffered fatal injuries in the concluding Grand Annual Chase.

Jamie Stier, chief regulatory officer for the BHA, said: "Everyone who follows this sport does so because we love these fine animals and it is extremely sad when we lose any horse.

"The BHA will be reviewing the circumstances leading to the fatalities at the Cheltenham Festival. We will examine the evidence from the past week over the next few days before deciding how we will pursue the review.

"We will also be examining whether the existing penalties for misuse of the whip, and how they apply, constitute an adequate deterrent to jockeys.

"We continue to use research, safety measures, regulation and education to reduce fatality rates to as close to zero as possible."

Earlier in the week, Mossback and Report to Base had to be put down after running in the National Hunt Chase and Close Brothers Novices' Chase respectively.

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Unfortunately the weather has been very bad for the last few weeks and the ground was the heaviest that many could recall....it rained very heavily on Thursday night and the ground was covered in snow just a couple of weeks ago.

It is very unfortunate that a numbe pr of horses were destroyed but it seems it was the state of the ground which was the problem.....the alternative would have been to postpone the meeting but this rarely happens simply because the ground was so heavy. It seems to be part of the nature of National Hunt racing.....good or hard ground can also be a problem for jumpers.
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