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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

deary me..

The bloody combination I backed in the first bounce back in the 2nd. Censored


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Wish Lloyd had of bought Noble mission and brought him out here, I always thought he would enjoy racing in oz...
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what a cracker that fillies race was....
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

One bet tonight on the flat...

Greenham stakes Newbury.
3-Golden Town




Actually I'm going to back Al Thakhira in the G3 fillies race before the Greenham too...




2:20 - Dubai Duty Free Stakes (Registered As The Fred Darling Stakes) (Group 3) (Fillies)

Awaiting full result...
7f, Class 1, £34,026.00

1 J Wonder 4/1
2 Al Thakhira 11/4F
3 Joyeuse 4/1

11 ran

WIN: 5.60
EX: 19.40 CSF: 15.32
PL: £2.20, £1.30, £2.40


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wow Kingman...suuuperb win...what's his goals this season..?
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Anything and everything.

Twitter is going bonkers after that effort.

Where have we seen those colours before ?




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Gosden says the horse is a miler.

I think he likes to take a good horse over to the Breeders' Cup.  
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Gabrial  Embarrassed
Koukash Embarrassed
Fahey Embarrassed
Jamie Embarrassed
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@#$% em


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Well done Gerald with Kaka...Clap
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I wasn't necessarily looking for a Fahey horse - I was looking for a horse that had run in the Lincoln, and there were very few of them.


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Berkshire seems to pound the ground, instead of glide over it.
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He's a big gangly brute isn't he...
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Didn't recognise the white with blue cap colours.  Apparently, he owned Le Havre, Jockey Club winner, and three of the four runners are homebreds.  I'm wondering whether they're named after French villages, near Le Havre.  Haven't investigated.


12:30

PRIX DES ORFEVRES (CONDITIONS) (3YO) (TURF) (3yo) Winner £14,167 5 runners 1m3f Good To Soft

Race Conditions: £28,333 For 3yo Penalty value 1st £14,166.67 2nd £5,666.67 3rd £4,250.00 4th£2,833.33 5th £1,416.67

NO. FORMHORSEAGEWGTTRAINER RTF%JOCKEYORTSRPR
125-1Owner detailsRio Tigre39-0A FabreMaxime Guyon98
26 Teofilo (IRE) — Braziliz (USA) (Kingmambo (USA))
215-1Owner detailsOrbec39-0J-C RougetGregory Benoist
Le Havre (IRE) — Langrune (IRE) (Fasliyev (USA))
3552-41Owner detailsAuvray39-0E LelloucheChristophe-Patrice Lemaire93
17 Le Havre (IRE) — Ameyrah (IRE) (In The Wings (GB))
4451Owner detailsCrystal Diamond38-10F HeadAurelien Lemaitre91
43 Teofilo (IRE) — Diamond Dance (Dancehall (USA))
53Owner detailsTheme Astral38-7P BaryThierry Jarnet
Cape Cross (IRE) — Lumiere Astrale (Trempolino (USA))

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SPOTLIGHT VERDICT: RIO TIGRE joined the Godolphin stable after winning a maiden at Chantilly over 1m1 1/2f. This is likely to be much tougher but he is progressing quickly and is obviously well-regarded. Auvray won a minor event at Compiegne and may give the selection most to do. Freddie Head's filly Crystal Diamond should also go well.

1:30

PRIX DE LA GROTTE (GROUP 3) (3YO FILLIES) (TURF) (3yo) Winner £33,333 5 runners 1m Good To Soft

Race Conditions: £66,667 For Penalty value 1st £33,333.33 2nd £13,333.33 3rd £10,000.00 4th £6,666.675th £3,333.33

NO. FORMHORSEAGEWGTTRAINER RTF%JOCKEYORTSRPR
15122-Owner detailsStraight Thinking39-0A FabreMaxime Guyon119
 215 Mizzen Mast (USA) — Hachita (USA) (Gone West (USA))
24112-Owner detailsLesstalk In Paris39-0J-C RougetChristophe Soumillon123
 189 Cape Cross (IRE) — Top Toss (IRE) (Linamix)
3316-1Owner detailsBocaiuva39-0F ChappetCristian Demuro102
 27 Teofilo (IRE) — Breath Of Love (USA) (Mutakddim (USA))
411788-6Owner detailsUltradargent39-0Yannick FouinUmberto Rispoli106
 31 Kendargent — Dulce De Leche (Victory Note (USA))
52121-Owner detailsIndonesienne39-0C FerlandOlivier Peslier125
 189 Muhtathir (GB) — Mydarshaan (GB) (Darshaan (GB))

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SPOTLIGHT VERDICT: A good opportunity for INDONESIENNE to kick her season off with a win. An easy scorer on debut last summer, she bumped into Miss France on her second outing at Chantilly and confirmed herself a thoroughly progressive filly by winning the Marcel Boussac on her final outing, coming from off the pace to win with a bit in hand. Had Lesstalk In Parisimmediately behind that day and ought to confirm the form en route to a crack at the Pouliches.

Prior to that run Lesstalk In Paris quickly developed into a smart sort last autumn, making a successful debut at Deauville and following up with a Group 3 defeat of Straight Thinking at Chantilly (both 1m on softish ground). 

Straight Thinking accounted for recent Imprudence winner Xcellence on her debut at Chantilly last summer (7f, good) before twice showing very useful form in defeat when runner-up in a pair of Group 3s, including when outstayed close home by Lesstalk In Paris on her final outing (1m, soft). Better ground is likely to suit and first time may be when to catch her, but she needs to improve.

Ultradargent has come up short at Listed/Group 3 level on several occasions already and, along with Bocaiuva, who won only a minor race on her reappearance, doesn't look good enough at this level. [Mark Brown]

2:40

PRIX DE FONTAINEBLEAU (GROUP 3) (3YO COLTS) (TURF) (3yo) Winner £33,333 8 runners 1mGood To Soft

Race Conditions: £66,667 For Penalty value 1st £33,333.33 2nd £13,333.33 3rd £10,000.00 4th £6,666.675th £3,333.33

NO. FORMHORSEAGEWGTTRAINER RTF%JOCKEYORTSRPR
164113-Owner detailsPrestige Vendome p39-2N ClementThierry Thulliez124
 163 Orpen (USA) — Place Vendome (Dr Fong (USA))
22143-1Owner detailsDaraybi39-2A De Royer-DupreChristophe Soumillon120
 14 Street Cry (IRE) — Daryaba (IRE) (Night Shift (USA))
357-4Owner detailsSerans b139-2E LelloucheCyrille Stefan
 46 Le Havre (IRE) — Miss Maybe (IRE) (Hawk Wing (USA))
4815-2Owner detailsApache Spirit39-2A FabreMaxime Guyon104
 27 Invincible Spirit (IRE) — Agathe Rare (IRE) (Sadler´s Wells (USA))
5721111-Owner detailsEctot39-2E LelloucheGregory Benoist126
 163 Hurricane Run (IRE) — Tonnara (IRE) (Linamix)
631211-Owner detailsKarakontie39-2J E PeaseStephane Pasquier129
 189 Bernstein (USA) — Sun Is Up (JPN) (Sunday Silence (USA))
713-1Owner detailsKenbest39-2H-A PantallThierry Jarnet97
 20 Kendargent — Maybe (GER) (Dashing Blade (GB))
8412-Owner detailsGaliway39-2A FabreOlivier Peslier112
 169 Galileo (IRE) — Danzigaway (USA) (Danehill (USA))

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SPOTLIGHT VERDICT: A cracking trial for the Poulains and it could be worth taking a chance on the potential of GALIWAY, who although having quite a bit to find on form with his main rivals, is representing top connections and looks sure to have progressed over the winter. Winning with more in hand than the margin suggest on debut last season (1m, soft) he looked to be found out by the combination of a drop to 7f on bottomless ground in the Group 3 Horris Hill at Newbury last October, labouring on into second, albeit behind an impressive winner. The return to a more suitable distance on better ground ought to enable him to produce a much-improved display.

Karakontie sets the standard judged on last season's Group 1 Lagardere victory (the third Charm Spirit won the Djebel recently) and there's every reason to expect further improvement over this trip. The Poulains is the aim, though, and it could be worth taking a chance he isn't fully wound up.

Similar comments apply to Ectot, who rounded off a fine juvenile campaign with a win in the Group 1 Criterium International (1m, very soft). It's likely he's going to want 1m2f, and perhaps even further, this season, though, so it remains to be seen whether he'll have the pace to make a winning reappearance, despite it looking as though Serans will make it a good test for him.

Prestige Vendome progressed well in cheekpieces last season and was only 1l behind Ectot in that Group 1, so should finished thereabouts with that rival once more.

Daraybi is well held by a couple of these on juvenile form and will find this an awful lot tougher than the minor race he won on reappearance. [Mark Brown]


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Reward for effort

Sylvain and Elisabeth Vidal’s Haras de la Cauvinière is France’s fastest growing stud thanks to the backing of Gérard Augustin-Normand

Tuesday, February 28, 2012 
Emma Berry 
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Three years ago, a visitor to Haras de la Cauvinière would have found a beautiful old Normandy farmhouse next to a small stable yard and barn, with a handful of mares grazing in tree-lined paddocks, similar to hundreds of properties dotted around that horse-laden area of northern France.

Sylvain Vidal, Elisabeth Vidal and Mathieu Alex at Haras de la Cauviniere, 2012

Sylvain and Elisabeth Vidal with Mathieu Alex

The stud’s proprietors, Sylvain and Elisabeth Vidal, son-in-law and daughter of the owners of the land on which the original hub of the operation sits, set out with the same dream as many young people in the racing and breeding business: to attract enough clients to their fledgling business to make it viable. Like a number of studs in the area, La Cauvinière enjoyed the patronage of breeders from England and Ireland keen to take advantage of the lucrative French premiums on offer, but it was a domestic owner who would help to turn the stud into the busiest new stallion farm in France.

“A few years ago, Gérard Augustin-Normand started buying a few yearlings and the horses were coming here after the sales to have a break,” says Sylvain Vidal, 39. “He asked me if I would like to get more involved and to have a stallion here, and then if I would like to buy some horses for him.”

As luck would have it, the stallion Augustin-Normand had in mind to stand at stud in the tiny village of Notre Dame de Courson, just south of Lisieux, was his 2009 Prix du Jockey-Club winner Le Havre, who was named in honour of his home town. Now in his third season at stud, the dark brown son of Noverre has been instantly popular with breeders, covering 146 mares in his first season and 138 last year. In 2011 he was joined at the stud by the former Ballydoyle campaigner Air Chief Marshal, who covered the biggest book of mares of any freshman sire in France last season.

“We are very happy,” says Sylvain Vidal, unsurprisingly. “We have two really popular stallions but they are two very different horses – one a sprinter with a lot of precocity and the other a Classic winner. Promotion is very important, of course, and we didn’t want to price them too high but Le Havre already has 120 mares booked to him again this year.”

We’re very fortunate that Le Havre has stayed in France; he could easily have been sold to Japan

With our conversation having taken place in late January during France’s ‘Route des Etalons’ weekend, that figure has doubtless risen, particularly given the number of visitors to the stud during those two days. One of the early birds was Berend Van Dalfsen, whose own stallion Turtle Bowl, resident at Haras de la Reboursière et de Montaigu, was quick off the mark with a Group 1 winner in his first crop last season. Van Dalfsen, along with breeders such as Newsells Park Stud and Lady Chryss O’Reilly, has an arrangement with Cauvinière to swap nominations to stallions under their ownership.We’re very fortunate that Le Havre has stayed in France; he could easily have been sold to Japan

While Air Chief Marshal’s fee of €3,000 is at a level one might expect to help him to attract a decent number of ‘commercial’ mares whether he was standing in England, Ireland or France, Le Havre’s €5,000 fee seems relatively little for a horse with Classic credentials. It is, however, in keeping for the French stallion market, which has been missing a star turn since the deaths of the likes of Highest Honor, Anabaa and Linamix, and has a raft of stallions in the €2,000-€5,000 bracket.

Branching out
Le Havre and Air Chief Marshal now have a special stallion complex on the site of a nearby farm formerly known as Haras du Montfort, which is also now home to Sylvain, Elisabeth and their one-year-old daughter Victoire.

The next-door farm, Haras de la Touques, has also been purchased in partnership with Augustin-Normand and houses yearlings, in addition to another yearling farm on land bought by the Vidals between La Cauvinière and Montfort. The original stud is still home to the 75-strong broodmare band, and cumulatively the four farms cover 250 hectares.

“As well as M. Augustin-Normand we have kept our same clients for the last six years – breeders from Switzerland, England, Ireland, Germany and Spain,” says Vidal. “We’re looking for another stallion and would welcome the opportunity to stand another horse with a strong pedigree and good performance record.”

The stallion yard at Haras de la Cauviniere, 2012

The stallion yard at Haras de la Cauvinière

As the equine population at La Cauvinière has grown, so, naturally, has the number of people involved. Vidal now employs a team of 15 and made a key appointment two years ago when encouraging his former colleague and compatriot Mathieu Alex to leave Coolmore and County Tipperary to return to France. An engaging character who speaks fluent English with a Franco-Irish accent, Alex has no doubt benefited from the thorough grounding he was given when part of Coolmore’s nominations team, but is very much enjoying being back in his homeland and working with his old friend. Together they have invested in some mares and have formed a breeding partnership under the name ‘Ecurie La Cauvinière’.

He says: “Sylvain was my mentor at Coolmore. I first met him on the street in Fethard and he pointed at me and said ‘Are you the new Frenchman?’ I said yes and he asked me who Sadler’s Wells was by. When I replied ‘Northern Dancer’ he invited me to have a drink.

“We became friends but Sylvain went one way and I stayed there. I really enjoyed my time in Ireland but I started to feel it was time to come home to France. There was only one place to come back to and that was here.”

Air Chief Marshall

Air Chief Marshal covered 120 mares in his first book

The Coolmore connection has already helped in bringing Air Chief Marshal to the stud – he is currently the sole son of Danehill Dancer in France – and it has given the duo a good head start when it comes to stallion management.

“We were told that the first two years of a stallion’s career are the most important ones,” says Alex. “We have had to work hard to make sure that they were getting the mares but Sylvain and Elisabeth are a very good team and for the last six years Cauvinière has built up a very good name – that’s where it starts.

“It helps on the stallion side that I got to know a lot of people in Ireland and England, but a stallion can’t cover 100 or 120 mares if they are not nice. So we invited a lot of people to come and look at them and they liked the horses and wanted to do business. We learned from the English and the Irish how to do business.”

One man’s passion
For Vidal, his Coolmore experience was backed up by stints with Ballydoyle, the Niarchos family and at Lane’s End Farm in Kentucky, looking after the likes of A.P. Indy. His role now incudes buying yearlings and mares for Augustin-Normand, who also owns Air Chief Marshal in partnership with Haras de la Cauvinière, and has supported both stallions with a significant increase in the size of his broodmare band.

Gerard Augustin-Normand right

Gérard Augustin-Normand (right) with Le Havre after winning the Prix Nino

With 120 horses in training, the financial analyst and former head of asset management firm Richelieu France set a new record of 98 winners as an owner in 2011, breaking the seasonal record previously held by the Aga Khan. Augustin-Normand is now a significant force in the French thoroughbred industry but his passion for racing, however, was developed in the field of trotting.

“The great thing is he just loves horses. His grandfather was a trotting trainer so he used to go racing as a kid,” says Vidal, who was also occupied during the open weekend with a trip to Vincennes for trotting’s biggest prize, the Prix d’Amerique. Augustin-Normand’s runner Quif de Villeneuve was heading to the race following victory in the Group 1 Prix du Cornulier.

The owner’s thoroughbred string is spread about, with Le Havre’s trainer Jean-Claude Rouget being the main beneficiary.

Vidal says: “He likes to have many trainers – Jean-Claude Rouget is in the south-west where the climate is good for the horses, but there’s also Francois Rohaut, Mikel Delzangles, Elie Lellouche, Nicolas Clement, Stephane Wattel, Yann Barberot and Pia Brandt. It was his idea to operate like that and it works well.”

With plenty of breeders visiting La Cauvinière, combined with Vidal’s increasingly high profile as a buyer at the sales, his is a face that is becoming well known in racing circles.

“We’re quite busy but it’s better this way,” he says. “There are only a few Classic winners who stay at stud in France so we were lucky that M. Augustin-Normand wanted to keep Le Havre in this country. We’re really grateful to him for standing him here. His involvement with the stud is obviously a good opportunity for us but it’s also good for French breeders as he could easily have sold Le Havre to Japan. It has been a dream really.”

A dream it may be, but it is one which demands Vidal keeps to a punishing schedule. His and Elisabeth’s hard work has been rewarded by a dose of good fortune, and few could begrudge them that.

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I need the post two posts ago deleted, as it was basically a repeat.


12:30

PRIX DES ORFEVRES (CONDITIONS) (3YO) (TURF) (3yo) Winner £14,167 5 runners 1m3f Good To Soft

Race Conditions: £28,333 For 3yo Penalty value 1st £14,166.67 2nd £5,666.67 3rd £4,250.00 4th£2,833.33 5th £1,416.67

NO.FORMHORSEAGEWGTTRAINER RTF%JOCKEYORTSRPR
125-1Rio Tigre 2639-0A FabreMaxime Guyon98
215-1Orbec39-0J-C RougetGregory Benoist
3552-41Auvray 1739-0E LelloucheChristophe-Patrice Lemaire93
4451Crystal Diamond 4338-10F HeadAurelien Lemaitre91
53Theme Astral38-7P BaryThierry Jarnet

Betting forecast: 6/4F Rio Tigre, 3/1 Auvray, 4/1 Crystal Diamond, 6/1 Orbec, 8/1 Theme Astral.

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SPOTLIGHT VERDICT: RIO TIGRE joined the Godolphin stable after winning a maiden at Chantilly over 1m1 1/2f. This is likely to be much tougher but he is progressing quickly and is obviously well-regarded. Auvray won a minor event at Compiegne and may give the selection most to do. Freddie Head's filly Crystal Diamond should also go well.

1:30

PRIX DE LA GROTTE (GROUP 3) (3YO FILLIES) (TURF) (3yo) Winner £33,333 5 runners 1m Good To Soft

Race Conditions: £66,667 For Penalty value 1st £33,333.33 2nd £13,333.33 3rd £10,000.00 4th £6,666.675th £3,333.33

NO.FORMHORSEAGEWGTTRAINER RTF%JOCKEYORTSRPR
15122-Straight Thinking 215 39-0A FabreMaxime Guyon119
24112-Lesstalk In Paris 189 39-0J-C RougetChristophe Soumillon123
3316-1Bocaiuva 27 39-0F ChappetCristian Demuro102
411788-6Ultradargent 31 39-0Yannick FouinUmberto Rispoli106
52121-Indonesienne 189 39-0C FerlandOlivier Peslier125

Betting forecast: 13/8 Indonesienne, 7/4 Lesstalk In Paris, 9/2 Straight Thinking, 10/1 Bocaiuva, 16/1 Ultradargent.

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SPOTLIGHT VERDICT: A good opportunity for INDONESIENNE to kick her season off with a win. An easy scorer on debut last summer, she bumped into Miss France on her second outing at Chantilly and confirmed herself a thoroughly progressive filly by winning the Marcel Boussac on her final outing, coming from off the pace to win with a bit in hand. Had Lesstalk In Parisimmediately behind that day and ought to confirm the form en route to a crack at the Pouliches.

Prior to that run Lesstalk In Paris quickly developed into a smart sort last autumn, making a successful debut at Deauville and following up with a Group 3 defeat of Straight Thinking at Chantilly (both 1m on softish ground). 

Straight Thinking accounted for recent Imprudence winner Xcellence on her debut at Chantilly last summer (7f, good) before twice showing very useful form in defeat when runner-up in a pair of Group 3s, including when outstayed close home by Lesstalk In Paris on her final outing (1m, soft). Better ground is likely to suit and first time may be when to catch her, but she needs to improve.

Ultradargent has come up short at Listed/Group 3 level on several occasions already and, along with Bocaiuva, who won only a minor race on her reappearance, doesn't look good enough at this level. [Mark Brown]

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PRIX DE FONTAINEBLEAU (GROUP 3) (3YO COLTS) (TURF) (3yo) Winner £33,333 8 runners 1mGood To Soft

Race Conditions: £66,667 For Penalty value 1st £33,333.33 2nd £13,333.33 3rd £10,000.00 4th £6,666.675th £3,333.33

NO.FORMHORSEAGEWGTTRAINER RTF%JOCKEYORTSRPR
164113-Prestige Vendome 163 p 39-2N ClementThierry Thulliez124
22143-1Daraybi 14 39-2A De Royer-DupreChristophe Soumillon120
357-4Serans 46 b1 39-2E LelloucheCyrille Stefan
4815-2Apache Spirit 27 39-2A FabreMaxime Guyon104
5721111-Ectot 163 39-2E LelloucheGregory Benoist126
631211-Karakontie 189 39-2J E PeaseStephane Pasquier129
713-1Kenbest 20 39-2H-A PantallThierry Jarnet97
8412-Galiway 169 39-2A FabreOlivier Peslier112

Betting forecast: 9/4 Karakontie, 5/2 Ectot, 6/1 Daraybi, 6/1 Prestige Vendome, 15/2 Galiway, 16/1 Apache Spirit, 25/1Kenbest, 40/1 Serans.

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SPOTLIGHT VERDICT: A cracking trial for the Poulains and it could be worth taking a chance on the potential of GALIWAY, who although having quite a bit to find on form with his main rivals, is representing top connections and looks sure to have progressed over the winter. Winning with more in hand than the margin suggest on debut last season (1m, soft) he looked to be found out by the combination of a drop to 7f on bottomless ground in the Group 3 Horris Hill at Newbury last October, labouring on into second, albeit behind an impressive winner. The return to a more suitable distance on better ground ought to enable him to produce a much-improved display.

Karakontie sets the standard judged on last season's Group 1 Lagardere victory (the third Charm Spirit won the Djebel recently) and there's every reason to expect further improvement over this trip. The Poulains is the aim, though, and it could be worth taking a chance he isn't fully wound up.

Similar comments apply to Ectot, who rounded off a fine juvenile campaign with a win in the Group 1 Criterium International (1m, very soft). It's likely he's going to want 1m2f, and perhaps even further, this season, though, so it remains to be seen whether he'll have the pace to make a winning reappearance, despite it looking as though Serans will make it a good test for him.

Prestige Vendome progressed well in cheekpieces last season and was only 1l behind Ectot in that Group 1, so should finished thereabouts with that rival once more.

Daraybi is well held by a couple of these on juvenile form and will find this an awful lot tougher than the minor race he won on reappearance. [Mark Brown]

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Yeah, Orbec and Serans seem to be villages, the former in Lower Normandy and the latter in Picardy, but Auvray seems to be a person, possibly a painter from two hundred years ago
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Good nights racing tonight, Ireland, UK and France...time to start taking notes me thinks..
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hmm, had a good night's sleep, and thought I'd do some form studying and punting, but the meetings don't appeal to me.  Was dead on my feet the past couple of days.  Think I'd prefer a Flat meeting in Britain.  I'll save my powder for the Newmarket Craven meeting.

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Having a decent bet on Indonesienne in the 3rd at Longchamp..


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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Having a decent bet on Indonesienne in the 3rd at Longchamp..




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2/3 Booker

3/2 Truthwillsetufree

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Safety Limit is 20 for all races at the Craven meeting.  They must be railing off almost half the track.  
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Sorry, just remembered they reduced the Safety Limits quite a few years ago, nationally for all races, except heritage races.  I suppose 20 might be the new maximum Safety Limit allowed anywhere.

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Originally posted by Geraldo Geraldo wrote:

Sorry, just remembered they reduced the Safety Limits quite a few years ago, nationally for all races, except heritage races.  I suppose 20 might be the new maximum Safety Limit allowed anywhere.



why would they have a safety limit on field sizes but allow unlimited sized fields in all handicaps (heritage) races, there are tons of hcps, rarely would you get a large field in a wfa or set weights anyway...
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deary me has Thomas Edison won that race..???
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

deary me has Thomas Edison won that race..???


the answer is a big fat YES..!!!!!!!!!

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